From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: romain@orebokech.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, "Kim F. Storm" <storm@cua.dk>
Subject: Re: It is time for a feature freeze (it is NOW or never).
Date: 12 Apr 2004 00:33:40 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m14qrp961q.fsf-monnier+emacs@empanada.iro.umontreal.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1BCsTJ-0007Ti-Cy@fencepost.gnu.org>
> I still think this is a bad idea -- it cannot be done without potentially
> destabilizing the trunk which is currently in a very stable state, and
> thus in a pretty unique state of "readiness for release".
> We could urge all the pretesters to try out the unicode branch now.
> That way we would get a picture of how far it is from readiness.
What's the problem with releasing from the current trunk ASAP instead?
Based on feedback from the few non-latin-only users I know, the trunk's
unicode support is "good enough" and is a major improvement over
Emacs-21.3.
There's no shortage of improvements in the current trunk. Trying to merge
the unicode branch before the next release would just delay the release of
those improvements. Maybe it would end up releasing the unicode-branch
a bit earlier, but I'm wondering why the unicode branch should be
considered so much more important than all those other features.
What concrete improvement does it bring to the user that's so valuable
compared to all the rest that's already in the trunk (i.e. utf-8 CJK
support, customizable fringes, many new packages, extra bundled manuals,
the list in NEWS is already much too long).
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-04-12 4:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 187+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-03-10 16:25 Compilation to native Matthew Mundell
2004-03-20 21:52 ` Matthew Mundell
2004-03-21 19:21 ` Richard Stallman
2004-03-22 16:54 ` Juri Linkov
2004-03-22 21:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-03-23 13:56 ` Juri Linkov
2004-03-24 23:50 ` Matthew Mundell
2004-03-24 23:57 ` Miles Bader
2004-03-22 23:44 ` Matthew Mundell
2004-03-23 13:57 ` Juri Linkov
2004-03-24 23:51 ` Matthew Mundell
2004-03-23 17:47 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-07 11:57 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-07 12:45 ` David Kastrup
2004-04-07 13:12 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-07 23:52 ` Alex Schroeder
2004-04-08 0:28 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-08 2:35 ` It is time for a feature freeze (it is NOW or never) Kim F. Storm
2004-04-08 2:03 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-08 3:13 ` John Wiegley
2004-04-08 4:25 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2004-04-08 5:58 ` John Wiegley
2004-04-08 11:26 ` Piet van Oostrum
2004-04-08 8:46 ` Jason Rumney
2004-04-08 15:46 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-08 15:44 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-08 15:06 ` David Kastrup
2004-04-08 16:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-09 1:36 ` Miles Bader
2004-04-09 23:43 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-09 23:58 ` Miles Bader
2004-04-10 0:08 ` Miles Bader
2004-04-10 18:31 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-10 17:53 ` Romain Francoise
2004-04-10 22:06 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-11 3:08 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-11 11:04 ` David Kastrup
2004-04-12 7:48 ` Lőrentey Károly
2004-04-11 2:34 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-11 9:06 ` Miles Bader
2004-04-12 4:24 ` Miles Bader
2004-04-12 21:10 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-12 20:48 ` Miles Bader
2004-04-13 17:44 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-10 23:19 ` Juri Linkov
2004-04-08 2:05 ` Miles Bader
2004-04-08 2:34 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-08 3:39 ` Miles Bader
2004-04-08 16:30 ` Redisplay crash Stefan Monnier
2004-04-09 1:57 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-13 10:00 ` Piet van Oostrum
2004-04-18 21:47 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-09 22:44 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-10 18:36 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-12 3:52 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-08 7:53 ` It is time for a feature freeze (it is NOW or never) Romain Francoise
2004-04-08 16:00 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-08 15:54 ` Romain Francoise
2004-04-09 22:44 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-10 1:37 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-10 1:09 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-12 3:51 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-14 14:57 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-20 21:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-01 20:16 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-01 23:21 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-01 21:49 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-02 7:30 ` David Kastrup
2004-05-02 16:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-02 18:12 ` Nick Roberts
2004-05-02 18:43 ` David Kastrup
2004-05-02 20:14 ` Nick Roberts
2004-05-03 10:29 ` Jason Rumney
2004-05-03 14:03 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-03 19:06 ` Jan D.
2004-05-08 1:21 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-08 11:14 ` Jan D.
2004-05-08 11:35 ` David Kastrup
2004-05-09 10:38 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-12 10:00 ` B&W icons (was It is time for a feature freeze (it is NOW or never).) Jan D.
2004-05-02 19:16 ` It is time for a feature freeze (it is NOW or never) Stefan Monnier
2004-05-02 22:26 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-03 5:44 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-03 9:13 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-03 8:52 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-03 13:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-03 22:20 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-13 17:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-13 21:50 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-13 22:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-14 12:18 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2004-05-14 12:49 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-03 21:00 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-04 7:14 ` David Kastrup
2004-05-04 8:09 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-04 8:17 ` David Kastrup
2004-05-04 6:34 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-04 8:52 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-04 13:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-04 13:58 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-04 8:26 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-04 13:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-04 14:26 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-04 14:37 ` David Kastrup
2004-05-04 20:07 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-04 22:21 ` David Kastrup
2004-05-04 21:18 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-04 23:49 ` David Kastrup
2004-05-05 0:23 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-05 9:24 ` David Kastrup
2004-05-04 22:24 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-05 1:04 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-04-12 3:50 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-12 4:15 ` Miles Bader
2004-04-13 17:44 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-16 13:15 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-16 14:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-17 1:41 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-17 17:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-19 4:40 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-19 13:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-19 23:44 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-19 23:59 ` Miles Bader
2004-04-20 0:38 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-12 4:33 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2004-04-12 21:20 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-13 1:30 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-13 10:37 ` Kim F. Storm
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2004-04-14 10:59 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-14 22:53 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-15 1:19 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-15 19:42 ` Lőrentey Károly
2004-04-16 18:08 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-16 18:49 ` David Kastrup
2004-04-16 20:19 ` Display-local settings (was: It is time for a feature freeze) Stefan Monnier
2004-04-16 20:38 ` David Kastrup
2004-04-16 21:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-19 15:10 ` Display-local settings Lőrentey Károly
2004-04-19 17:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-20 4:48 ` Lőrentey Károly
2004-04-17 19:46 ` It is time for a feature freeze (it is NOW or never) Richard Stallman
2004-04-19 15:49 ` Display-local variables (Re: It is time for a feature freeze) Lőrentey Károly
2004-04-19 22:09 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-20 4:27 ` Lőrentey Károly
2004-04-20 10:18 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-15 18:18 ` It is time for a feature freeze (it is NOW or never) Lőrentey Károly
2004-04-08 1:08 ` Compilation to native Richard Stallman
2004-04-08 1:31 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-09 22:43 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-08 1:08 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-13 23:12 ` Juri Linkov
2004-04-13 23:40 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-14 1:17 ` Juri Linkov
2004-04-14 1:54 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-15 11:11 ` Pure strings (Re: Compilation to native) Juri Linkov
2004-04-18 21:47 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-19 6:36 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-19 14:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-19 23:39 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-19 18:20 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-20 1:00 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-03-22 23:42 ` Compilation to native Matthew Mundell
2004-03-23 17:48 ` Richard Stallman
2004-03-23 22:43 ` David Kastrup
2004-03-24 23:52 ` Matthew Mundell
2004-03-30 22:18 ` Matthew Mundell
2004-03-30 22:30 ` David Kastrup
2004-03-31 18:58 ` Matthew Mundell
2004-03-30 23:31 ` Juri Linkov
2004-04-01 4:42 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-01 4:42 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-02 16:38 ` Matthew Mundell
2004-04-12 20:20 ` Matthew Mundell
2004-04-12 20:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-13 16:56 ` Matthew Mundell
2004-04-13 17:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-13 19:03 ` Matthew Mundell
2004-04-13 21:00 ` Miles Bader
2004-04-13 21:50 ` Miles Bader
2004-04-14 22:49 ` Matthew Mundell
2004-04-16 14:22 ` Matthew Mundell
2004-04-13 20:51 ` Miles Bader
2004-04-16 14:21 ` Matthew Mundell
2004-04-16 14:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-16 15:06 ` Matthew Mundell
2004-04-16 14:20 ` Matthew Mundell
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2004-05-14 7:03 It is time for a feature freeze (it is NOW or never) David PONCE
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