From: Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>
Cc: Matthew Mundell <matt@mundell.ukfsn.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Compilation to native
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 15:56:06 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ekrjr7k9.fsf@mail.jurta.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m17jxclg7s.fsf-monnier+emacs@empanada.local> (Stefan Monnier's message of "22 Mar 2004 16:37:04 -0500")
> Maybe Richard is right, but I wouldn't be surprised if we can't go much
> faster than that. A lot of time is spent in C primitives including
> binding variables and looking them up. Also a lot of the time spent in
> function call is cleverly spread and duplicated between the caller and the
> callee which are at two different places, so there's a lot of opportunities
> for optimization but it's very difficult to do it at all, let
> alone do it automatically.
Yes, this would require implementing an optimizing Lisp compiler
which is a tremendous task.
> And compiling CCL to native code is likely to bring much more impressive
> speed ups because less time is spent in C primitives.
Since CCL is a much simpler and quite independent language
implementing its compilation is more manageable task and it should
considerably improve the performance of code conversion which
currently is very poor.
One of the main questions that should be decided now is how to
implement CCL compilation: dynamically with the help of GNU Lightning,
or statically by generating C code which will be compiled by a C
compiler into the Emacs executable.
--
Juri Linkov
http://www.jurta.org/emacs/
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Thread overview: 186+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-03-10 16:25 Compilation to native Matthew Mundell
2004-03-20 21:52 ` Matthew Mundell
2004-03-21 19:21 ` Richard Stallman
2004-03-22 16:54 ` Juri Linkov
2004-03-22 21:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-03-23 13:56 ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2004-03-24 23:50 ` Matthew Mundell
2004-03-24 23:57 ` Miles Bader
2004-03-22 23:44 ` Matthew Mundell
2004-03-23 13:57 ` Juri Linkov
2004-03-24 23:51 ` Matthew Mundell
2004-03-23 17:47 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-07 11:57 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-07 12:45 ` David Kastrup
2004-04-07 13:12 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-07 23:52 ` Alex Schroeder
2004-04-08 0:28 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-08 2:35 ` It is time for a feature freeze (it is NOW or never) Kim F. Storm
2004-04-08 2:03 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-08 3:13 ` John Wiegley
2004-04-08 4:25 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2004-04-08 5:58 ` John Wiegley
2004-04-08 11:26 ` Piet van Oostrum
2004-04-08 8:46 ` Jason Rumney
2004-04-08 15:46 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-08 15:44 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-08 15:06 ` David Kastrup
2004-04-08 16:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-09 1:36 ` Miles Bader
2004-04-09 23:43 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-09 23:58 ` Miles Bader
2004-04-10 0:08 ` Miles Bader
2004-04-10 18:31 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-10 17:53 ` Romain Francoise
2004-04-10 22:06 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-11 3:08 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-11 11:04 ` David Kastrup
2004-04-12 7:48 ` Lőrentey Károly
2004-04-11 2:34 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-11 9:06 ` Miles Bader
2004-04-12 4:24 ` Miles Bader
2004-04-12 21:10 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-12 20:48 ` Miles Bader
2004-04-13 17:44 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-10 23:19 ` Juri Linkov
2004-04-08 2:05 ` Miles Bader
2004-04-08 2:34 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-08 3:39 ` Miles Bader
2004-04-08 16:30 ` Redisplay crash Stefan Monnier
2004-04-09 1:57 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-13 10:00 ` Piet van Oostrum
2004-04-18 21:47 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-09 22:44 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-10 18:36 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-12 3:52 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-08 7:53 ` It is time for a feature freeze (it is NOW or never) Romain Francoise
2004-04-08 16:00 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-08 15:54 ` Romain Francoise
2004-04-09 22:44 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-10 1:37 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-10 1:09 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-12 3:51 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-14 14:57 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-20 21:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-01 20:16 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-01 23:21 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-01 21:49 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-02 7:30 ` David Kastrup
2004-05-02 16:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-02 18:12 ` Nick Roberts
2004-05-02 18:43 ` David Kastrup
2004-05-02 20:14 ` Nick Roberts
2004-05-03 10:29 ` Jason Rumney
2004-05-03 14:03 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-03 19:06 ` Jan D.
2004-05-08 1:21 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-08 11:14 ` Jan D.
2004-05-08 11:35 ` David Kastrup
2004-05-09 10:38 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-12 10:00 ` B&W icons (was It is time for a feature freeze (it is NOW or never).) Jan D.
2004-05-02 19:16 ` It is time for a feature freeze (it is NOW or never) Stefan Monnier
2004-05-02 22:26 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-03 5:44 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-03 9:13 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-03 8:52 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-03 13:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-03 22:20 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-13 17:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-13 21:50 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-13 22:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-14 12:18 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2004-05-14 12:49 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-03 21:00 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-04 7:14 ` David Kastrup
2004-05-04 8:09 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-04 8:17 ` David Kastrup
2004-05-04 6:34 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-04 8:52 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-04 13:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-04 13:58 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-04 8:26 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-04 13:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-04 14:26 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-04 14:37 ` David Kastrup
2004-05-04 20:07 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-04 22:21 ` David Kastrup
2004-05-04 21:18 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-04 23:49 ` David Kastrup
2004-05-05 0:23 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-05 9:24 ` David Kastrup
2004-05-04 22:24 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-05 1:04 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-04-12 3:50 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-12 4:15 ` Miles Bader
2004-04-13 17:44 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-16 13:15 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-16 14:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-17 1:41 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-17 17:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-19 4:40 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-19 13:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-19 23:44 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-19 23:59 ` Miles Bader
2004-04-20 0:38 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-12 4:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-12 21:20 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-13 1:30 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-13 10:37 ` Kim F. Storm
[not found] ` <lorentey.g.e.devel.87brlx1wku.elte@eris.elte.hu>
2004-04-14 10:59 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-14 22:53 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-15 1:19 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-15 19:42 ` Lőrentey Károly
2004-04-16 18:08 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-16 18:49 ` David Kastrup
2004-04-16 20:19 ` Display-local settings (was: It is time for a feature freeze) Stefan Monnier
2004-04-16 20:38 ` David Kastrup
2004-04-16 21:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-19 15:10 ` Display-local settings Lőrentey Károly
2004-04-19 17:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-20 4:48 ` Lőrentey Károly
2004-04-17 19:46 ` It is time for a feature freeze (it is NOW or never) Richard Stallman
2004-04-19 15:49 ` Display-local variables (Re: It is time for a feature freeze) Lőrentey Károly
2004-04-19 22:09 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-20 4:27 ` Lőrentey Károly
2004-04-20 10:18 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-15 18:18 ` It is time for a feature freeze (it is NOW or never) Lőrentey Károly
2004-04-08 1:08 ` Compilation to native Richard Stallman
2004-04-08 1:31 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-09 22:43 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-08 1:08 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-13 23:12 ` Juri Linkov
2004-04-13 23:40 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-14 1:17 ` Juri Linkov
2004-04-14 1:54 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-15 11:11 ` Pure strings (Re: Compilation to native) Juri Linkov
2004-04-18 21:47 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-19 6:36 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-19 14:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-19 23:39 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-19 18:20 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-20 1:00 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-03-22 23:42 ` Compilation to native Matthew Mundell
2004-03-23 17:48 ` Richard Stallman
2004-03-23 22:43 ` David Kastrup
2004-03-24 23:52 ` Matthew Mundell
2004-03-30 22:18 ` Matthew Mundell
2004-03-30 22:30 ` David Kastrup
2004-03-31 18:58 ` Matthew Mundell
2004-03-30 23:31 ` Juri Linkov
2004-04-01 4:42 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-01 4:42 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-02 16:38 ` Matthew Mundell
2004-04-12 20:20 ` Matthew Mundell
2004-04-12 20:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-13 16:56 ` Matthew Mundell
2004-04-13 17:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-13 19:03 ` Matthew Mundell
2004-04-13 21:00 ` Miles Bader
2004-04-13 21:50 ` Miles Bader
2004-04-14 22:49 ` Matthew Mundell
2004-04-16 14:22 ` Matthew Mundell
2004-04-13 20:51 ` Miles Bader
2004-04-16 14:21 ` Matthew Mundell
2004-04-16 14:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-16 15:06 ` Matthew Mundell
2004-04-16 14:20 ` Matthew Mundell
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