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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Towards a cleaner build: other output
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2019 09:33:59 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvy31x4smk.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3a7ed7n4b.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 19 Jun 2019 14:53:08 +0200")

> Right, it's these:
>
> (defvar * nil
>   "Most recent value evaluated in IELM.")
>
> But ielm really does define (and use) these variables,

Right, but the intent is for them to be used from IELM, rather than from
anywhere else.  They "bleed" out of IELM because of the way IELM is implemented.

> and you can describe-variable them: [...] Which seems nice...

Indeed you can, but I'm not sure it's that important.
I think turning those (defvar * nil) to (defvar *) would be fine: the
global value is always nil anyway, AFAICT.

>> The right fix there is to rename "everything" to use a "page-" prefix rather
>> than merely using "page" somewhere in the name.
> I'll do the renaming and mark the old names as obsolete.  I can't see
> them used anywhere else in the tree, but perhaps there are out-of-tree
> uses...

I think these are all user-level commands, so the most likely place for
them to appear is in ~/.emacs


        Stefan




  reply	other threads:[~2019-06-19 13:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 300+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-17  2:15 Towards a cleaner build Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17  2:33 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 18:38   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-17  2:50 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-18  8:33   ` Towards a cleaner build: epa-mail Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17  3:01 ` Towards a cleaner build Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17  4:14   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-17  4:21     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17  3:06 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17  4:18   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-17  4:29     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17  5:50       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-17  6:12         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17  6:38           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17  8:37           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-17 10:05             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 11:25               ` Noam Postavsky
2019-05-17 11:34                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 12:31                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 12:39                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 13:32                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 13:41                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 14:07                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 14:37                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-27 23:03                               ` Noam Postavsky
2019-05-28  9:49                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-28 11:22                                   ` Noam Postavsky
2019-05-28 11:26                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-28 11:36                                       ` Noam Postavsky
2019-05-28 11:39                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-28 12:29                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-28 15:07                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-28 15:11                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-28 18:44                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-29 11:19                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-28 20:43                                               ` Noam Postavsky
2019-05-28 21:16                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-29 11:17                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-29 15:48                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-29 23:12                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-09 13:48                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-09 14:53                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-09 15:02                                                         ` Noam Postavsky
2019-06-09 15:50                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-09 18:33                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-09 19:12                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-09 20:09                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-11 14:53                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-12 14:01                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-12 16:37                                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-12 22:07                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-13  0:06                                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13  7:57                                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-13 12:04                                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 12:09                                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 12:44                                                                                 ` Towards a cleaner build: rmailmm Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 22:15                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-14  7:23                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-14  9:57                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-14 11:45                                                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 13:40                                                                                 ` Towards a cleaner build: eieio Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 16:13                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-14 12:11                                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-14 13:52                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-14 14:06                                                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-14 19:13                                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-15 12:46                                                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-15 14:04                                                                                               ` Towards a cleaner build: bindat Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-15 14:22                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-15 14:34                                                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-15 14:50                                                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-15 14:56                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-15 15:28                                                                                                         ` Towards a cleaner build: feedmail Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-15 15:30                                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-15 15:42                                                                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-15 16:11                                                                                                               ` Towards a cleaner build: tags Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-15 16:33                                                                                                                 ` Towards a cleaner build: srecode/insert Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-16 14:19                                                                                                                   ` Eric Ludlam
2019-06-16 14:25                                                                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-16  0:30                                                                                                                 ` Towards a cleaner build: tags Dmitry Gutov
2019-06-16 13:20                                                                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-16 14:45                                                                                                                     ` Towards a cleaner build: select.el Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-16 15:31                                                                                                                       ` Towards a cleaner build: calc.el Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-16 15:55                                                                                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-16 16:23                                                                                                                           ` Noam Postavsky
2019-06-16 17:03                                                                                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-16 17:28                                                                                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-16 21:51                                                                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-16 22:00                                                                                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-17 10:47                                                                                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-17 11:03                                                                                                                               ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-06-16 16:19                                                                                                                       ` Towards a cleaner build: select.el Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-16 16:43                                                                                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-18 13:44                                                                                                                     ` Towards a cleaner build: tags Dmitry Gutov
2019-06-19 13:18                                                                                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-20 12:00                                                                                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-20 12:02                                                                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-06-20 12:08                                                                                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-20 12:04                                                                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-06-20 12:09                                                                                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-15 16:31                                                                                               ` Towards a cleaner build: eieio Stefan Monnier
2019-06-16 12:36                                                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-16 16:41                                                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-16 22:39                                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-16 22:44                                                                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-17  1:03                                                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-17  9:40                                                                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-17  9:51                                                                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-17 10:53                                                                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-17 10:58                                                                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 13:50                                                                                 ` Towards a cleaner build: ieieo Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 16:16                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-14 12:13                                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-14 19:49                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-15 12:38                                                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 15:54                                                                                 ` string-to-multibyte and string-make-*byte (was: Towards a cleaner build) Stefan Monnier
2019-06-14 12:33                                                                                   ` string-to-multibyte and string-make-*byte Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-17 12:08                                                                           ` Towards a cleaner build: pcomplete Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-17 13:23                                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-17 13:30                                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-17 14:05                                                                               ` Towards a cleaner build: other output Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-17 16:04                                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2019-06-17 17:11                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-18  3:01                                                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2019-06-18  9:49                                                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-18 12:30                                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-19  2:06                                                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2019-06-17 19:48                                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-17 19:56                                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-17 20:27                                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-17 20:29                                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-17 22:48                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-17 23:02                                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-17 23:08                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-17 23:27                                                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-18  4:04                                                                                         ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-06-18 12:28                                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-18 12:35                                                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-18 12:42                                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-18 13:36                                                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-18 14:05                                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-19 12:53                                                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-19 13:33                                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2019-06-20 11:40                                                                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-20 12:02                                                                                                           ` Noam Postavsky
2019-06-20 12:09                                                                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-20 13:08                                                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-20 13:31                                                                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-20 13:23                                                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-20 14:19                                                                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-20 18:55                                                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-21 10:44                                                                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-21 14:35                                                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-20 12:24                                                                                                           ` Towards a cleaner build: done! Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-20 13:22                                                                                                             ` Noam Postavsky
2019-06-20 13:31                                                                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-22  8:37                                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-25 21:12                                                                                                             ` Arash Esbati
2019-06-25 21:25                                                                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-18 15:41                                                                                           ` Towards a cleaner build: other output Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-17 22:40                                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-17 22:53                                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-18  9:56                                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-18 12:11                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-18 13:38                                                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-18 14:00                                                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-18 14:09                                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-18 14:15                                                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-12 23:21                                                                       ` Towards a cleaner build: viper-ex Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-12 23:35                                                                         ` Towards a cleaner build: project.el Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-12 23:55                                                                           ` Towards a cleaner build: obsolete/cl-compat.el Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13  0:04                                                                           ` Towards a cleaner build: erc.el Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13  0:18                                                                             ` Towards a cleaner build: calendar Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13  1:38                                                                               ` Towards a cleaner build: cedet Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 14:44                                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 15:46                                                                                   ` Noam Postavsky
2019-06-13 15:56                                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 16:15                                                                                       ` Noam Postavsky
2019-06-13 16:19                                                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 15:10                                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 16:23                                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 16:35                                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-14 12:16                                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-14 13:54                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-14 14:10                                                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-14 19:16                                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-15 12:46                                                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-14 12:27                                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-14 13:22                                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-14 19:51                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-14 20:05                                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-06-15 12:41                                                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-15 13:05                                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-06-15 16:05                                                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-15 20:14                                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-06-15 22:58                                                                                   ` Eric Ludlam
2019-06-16 12:34                                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-14 14:30                                                                               ` Towards a cleaner build: calendar Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-14 16:05                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-15 12:31                                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13  0:27                                                                             ` Towards a cleaner build: disass.el Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13  3:43                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-13 11:57                                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 16:23                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-13 16:21                                                                             ` Towards a cleaner build: erc.el Stefan Monnier
2019-06-14 11:49                                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 12:55                                                                           ` Towards a cleaner build: project.el Dmitry Gutov
2019-06-13 12:58                                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 13:10                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-06-13 13:24                                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 16:30                                                                                   ` Towards a cleaner build: byte-run.el Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 20:55                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-14 11:24                                                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13  3:41                                                                         ` Towards a cleaner build: viper-ex Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-13 12:00                                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 12:46                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-13 12:47                                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 12:51                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-13 12:52                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-06-13 12:54                                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 15:21                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-06-09 23:01                                                                 ` Towards a cleaner build Stefan Monnier
2019-06-10  8:44                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-10 13:36                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-09 17:26                                                         ` Andreas Schwab
2019-06-09 15:31                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-09 15:40                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-09 16:15                                                         ` Noam Postavsky
2019-06-09 16:24                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-09 16:28                                                             ` Noam Postavsky
2019-06-09 16:44                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-09 18:24                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-09 19:08                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-09 22:57                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-09 16:31                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-09 16:42                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-09 18:18                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-28 12:00                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-17 16:13                           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-18  5:02                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-18 12:43                               ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-18  5:18                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 11:40                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 12:28                   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-18  6:45                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 12:06                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-17 12:33                 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-17  3:24 ` Drew Adams
2019-05-17  3:32 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17  8:16   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-17 10:24     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 11:43       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-17  3:51 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17  8:31   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-17 10:13     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17  5:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-17  5:52   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17  8:33     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-17 10:19       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 11:41         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-17 11:49           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 13:06           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-17 10:35 ` Towards a cleaner build: arc-mode Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 12:01   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-18  3:56     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-18  4:04       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-18  5:39         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-18  6:04           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-18  7:50             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-18  8:02               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-18  6:01       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-18 12:59       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-18 13:17         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-18  4:21     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-18  4:31       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-18  6:03       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-18  4:36     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-18  5:57       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-18  6:00         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-19 16:36           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-19 17:03             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-17 10:41 ` Towards a cleaner build: ehelp Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 13:01   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-18  4:41     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 12:45 ` Towards a cleaner build: hexl Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 12:49   ` Noam Postavsky
2019-05-17 13:26   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-18  5:07     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 16:23   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-18  4:39     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-18  5:32 ` Towards a cleaner build: custom Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-18  5:34 ` Towards a cleaner build: frameset Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-18 12:56   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-28  9:50     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-28 13:06       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-28 13:22         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-28 13:27           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-18  8:42 ` Towards a cleaner build: epa-file Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-18  9:13   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-18  9:17     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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