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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Towards a cleaner build: other output
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2019 18:48:25 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvfto7u95h.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: m3zhmgastx.fsf@gnus.org

> There's one point I'd argue for more messaging than we have today.  Or
> at least different messaging:
>
>   GEN      loaddefs.el
> Not registering prefix "lo" from completion.  Affects:
> ("locate-completion-entry" "locate-completion-entry-retry"
> "locate-completion-db-error" "load-completions-from-file")
> Not registering prefix "*" from ielm.  Affects: ("*" "**" "***" "*1" "*2" "*3")
> (etc)
>
> When we come to this point in the build process, even on my fastest
> machine, it pauses for many seconds.  I'm not sure that the "not
> registering" thing is useful, but it'd be nice if it gave more feedback
> to let us know that it was working on something and not having choked...

This is the step that builds the loaddefs.el file (i.e. all the
autoloads).  It also happens to build the "prefix" table used to try and
automatically know where to find which definitions, but that's
a side-gig.  So the processing doesn't have anything to do with
"completions", really (in the above warnings "completion" refers to the
completion.el package).

So, yes, you can output some progress messages if you want (it only
takes a long time during bootstrap.  On rebuilds it's usually very
fast), but makes it says something about "scraped autoloads from
N files" or something like that.

> I don't see much value in the "Not registering" messages, because I
> don't see how any developer would respond to the output, but I may be
> totally wrong here.

Those "not registering" mean that the corresponding definitions will not
be findable via things like `C-h o` until the package is loaded.  As for
what the developer should do: cleanup his namespace!


        Stefan




  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-06-17 22:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 300+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-17  2:15 Towards a cleaner build Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17  2:33 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 18:38   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-17  2:50 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-18  8:33   ` Towards a cleaner build: epa-mail Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17  3:01 ` Towards a cleaner build Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17  4:14   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-17  4:21     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17  3:06 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17  4:18   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-17  4:29     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17  5:50       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-17  6:12         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17  6:38           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17  8:37           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-17 10:05             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 11:25               ` Noam Postavsky
2019-05-17 11:34                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 12:31                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 12:39                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 13:32                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 13:41                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 14:07                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 14:37                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-27 23:03                               ` Noam Postavsky
2019-05-28  9:49                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-28 11:22                                   ` Noam Postavsky
2019-05-28 11:26                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-28 11:36                                       ` Noam Postavsky
2019-05-28 11:39                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-28 12:29                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-28 15:07                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-28 15:11                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-28 18:44                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-29 11:19                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-28 20:43                                               ` Noam Postavsky
2019-05-28 21:16                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-29 11:17                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-29 15:48                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-29 23:12                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-09 13:48                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-09 14:53                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-09 15:02                                                         ` Noam Postavsky
2019-06-09 15:50                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-09 18:33                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-09 19:12                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-09 20:09                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-11 14:53                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-12 14:01                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-12 16:37                                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-12 22:07                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-13  0:06                                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13  7:57                                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-13 12:04                                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 12:09                                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 12:44                                                                                 ` Towards a cleaner build: rmailmm Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 22:15                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-14  7:23                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-14  9:57                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-14 11:45                                                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 13:40                                                                                 ` Towards a cleaner build: eieio Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 16:13                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-14 12:11                                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-14 13:52                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-14 14:06                                                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-14 19:13                                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-15 12:46                                                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-15 14:04                                                                                               ` Towards a cleaner build: bindat Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-15 14:22                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-15 14:34                                                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-15 14:50                                                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-15 14:56                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-15 15:28                                                                                                         ` Towards a cleaner build: feedmail Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-15 15:30                                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-15 15:42                                                                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-15 16:11                                                                                                               ` Towards a cleaner build: tags Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-15 16:33                                                                                                                 ` Towards a cleaner build: srecode/insert Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-16 14:19                                                                                                                   ` Eric Ludlam
2019-06-16 14:25                                                                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-16  0:30                                                                                                                 ` Towards a cleaner build: tags Dmitry Gutov
2019-06-16 13:20                                                                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-16 14:45                                                                                                                     ` Towards a cleaner build: select.el Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-16 15:31                                                                                                                       ` Towards a cleaner build: calc.el Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-16 15:55                                                                                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-16 16:23                                                                                                                           ` Noam Postavsky
2019-06-16 17:03                                                                                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-16 17:28                                                                                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-16 21:51                                                                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-16 22:00                                                                                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-17 10:47                                                                                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-17 11:03                                                                                                                               ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-06-16 16:19                                                                                                                       ` Towards a cleaner build: select.el Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-16 16:43                                                                                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-18 13:44                                                                                                                     ` Towards a cleaner build: tags Dmitry Gutov
2019-06-19 13:18                                                                                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-20 12:00                                                                                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-20 12:02                                                                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-06-20 12:08                                                                                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-20 12:04                                                                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-06-20 12:09                                                                                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-15 16:31                                                                                               ` Towards a cleaner build: eieio Stefan Monnier
2019-06-16 12:36                                                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-16 16:41                                                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-16 22:39                                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-16 22:44                                                                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-17  1:03                                                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-17  9:40                                                                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-17  9:51                                                                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-17 10:53                                                                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-17 10:58                                                                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 13:50                                                                                 ` Towards a cleaner build: ieieo Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 16:16                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-14 12:13                                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-14 19:49                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-15 12:38                                                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 15:54                                                                                 ` string-to-multibyte and string-make-*byte (was: Towards a cleaner build) Stefan Monnier
2019-06-14 12:33                                                                                   ` string-to-multibyte and string-make-*byte Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-17 12:08                                                                           ` Towards a cleaner build: pcomplete Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-17 13:23                                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-17 13:30                                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-17 14:05                                                                               ` Towards a cleaner build: other output Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-17 16:04                                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2019-06-17 17:11                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-18  3:01                                                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2019-06-18  9:49                                                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-18 12:30                                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-19  2:06                                                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2019-06-17 19:48                                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-17 19:56                                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-17 20:27                                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-17 20:29                                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-17 22:48                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2019-06-17 23:02                                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-17 23:08                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-17 23:27                                                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-18  4:04                                                                                         ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-06-18 12:28                                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-18 12:35                                                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-18 12:42                                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-18 13:36                                                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-18 14:05                                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-19 12:53                                                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-19 13:33                                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-20 11:40                                                                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-20 12:02                                                                                                           ` Noam Postavsky
2019-06-20 12:09                                                                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-20 13:08                                                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-20 13:31                                                                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-20 13:23                                                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-20 14:19                                                                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-20 18:55                                                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-21 10:44                                                                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-21 14:35                                                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-20 12:24                                                                                                           ` Towards a cleaner build: done! Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-20 13:22                                                                                                             ` Noam Postavsky
2019-06-20 13:31                                                                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-22  8:37                                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-25 21:12                                                                                                             ` Arash Esbati
2019-06-25 21:25                                                                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-18 15:41                                                                                           ` Towards a cleaner build: other output Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-17 22:40                                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-17 22:53                                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-18  9:56                                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-18 12:11                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-18 13:38                                                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-18 14:00                                                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-18 14:09                                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-18 14:15                                                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-12 23:21                                                                       ` Towards a cleaner build: viper-ex Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-12 23:35                                                                         ` Towards a cleaner build: project.el Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-12 23:55                                                                           ` Towards a cleaner build: obsolete/cl-compat.el Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13  0:04                                                                           ` Towards a cleaner build: erc.el Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13  0:18                                                                             ` Towards a cleaner build: calendar Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13  1:38                                                                               ` Towards a cleaner build: cedet Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 14:44                                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 15:46                                                                                   ` Noam Postavsky
2019-06-13 15:56                                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 16:15                                                                                       ` Noam Postavsky
2019-06-13 16:19                                                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 15:10                                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 16:23                                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 16:35                                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-14 12:16                                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-14 13:54                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-14 14:10                                                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-14 19:16                                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-15 12:46                                                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-14 12:27                                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-14 13:22                                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-14 19:51                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-14 20:05                                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-06-15 12:41                                                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-15 13:05                                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-06-15 16:05                                                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-15 20:14                                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-06-15 22:58                                                                                   ` Eric Ludlam
2019-06-16 12:34                                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-14 14:30                                                                               ` Towards a cleaner build: calendar Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-14 16:05                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-15 12:31                                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13  0:27                                                                             ` Towards a cleaner build: disass.el Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13  3:43                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-13 11:57                                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 16:23                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-13 16:21                                                                             ` Towards a cleaner build: erc.el Stefan Monnier
2019-06-14 11:49                                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 12:55                                                                           ` Towards a cleaner build: project.el Dmitry Gutov
2019-06-13 12:58                                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 13:10                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-06-13 13:24                                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 16:30                                                                                   ` Towards a cleaner build: byte-run.el Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 20:55                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-14 11:24                                                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13  3:41                                                                         ` Towards a cleaner build: viper-ex Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-13 12:00                                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 12:46                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-13 12:47                                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 12:51                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-13 12:52                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-06-13 12:54                                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-13 15:21                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-06-09 23:01                                                                 ` Towards a cleaner build Stefan Monnier
2019-06-10  8:44                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-10 13:36                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-09 17:26                                                         ` Andreas Schwab
2019-06-09 15:31                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-09 15:40                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-09 16:15                                                         ` Noam Postavsky
2019-06-09 16:24                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-09 16:28                                                             ` Noam Postavsky
2019-06-09 16:44                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-09 18:24                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-09 19:08                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-09 22:57                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-09 16:31                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-09 16:42                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-09 18:18                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-28 12:00                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-17 16:13                           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-18  5:02                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-18 12:43                               ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-18  5:18                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 11:40                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 12:28                   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-18  6:45                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 12:06                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-17 12:33                 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-17  3:24 ` Drew Adams
2019-05-17  3:32 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17  8:16   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-17 10:24     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 11:43       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-17  3:51 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17  8:31   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-17 10:13     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17  5:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-17  5:52   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17  8:33     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-17 10:19       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 11:41         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-17 11:49           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 13:06           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-17 10:35 ` Towards a cleaner build: arc-mode Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 12:01   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-18  3:56     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-18  4:04       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-18  5:39         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-18  6:04           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-18  7:50             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-18  8:02               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-18  6:01       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-18 12:59       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-18 13:17         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-18  4:21     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-18  4:31       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-18  6:03       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-18  4:36     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-18  5:57       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-18  6:00         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-19 16:36           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-19 17:03             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-17 10:41 ` Towards a cleaner build: ehelp Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 13:01   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-18  4:41     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 12:45 ` Towards a cleaner build: hexl Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 12:49   ` Noam Postavsky
2019-05-17 13:26   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-18  5:07     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-17 16:23   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-18  4:39     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-18  5:32 ` Towards a cleaner build: custom Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-18  5:34 ` Towards a cleaner build: frameset Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-18 12:56   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-28  9:50     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-28 13:06       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-28 13:22         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-28 13:27           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-05-18  8:42 ` Towards a cleaner build: epa-file Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-05-18  9:13   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-05-18  9:17     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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