From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Juanma Barranquero <jmbarranquero@wke.es>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: new *Help* argument highlighting
Date: 12 May 2004 16:12:32 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvwu3ho1l8.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1BNzay-0007hP-Cy@fencepost.gnu.org>
Honestly, I can't believe we're spending so much energy on printing args in
a slightly nicer way:
- making sure the new highlighting pleases most people [done].
- making sure the new highlighting is OK in 99& of the environments
[already done: including when the user changed the face to not be italics,
or when running on a tty.]
[left to do: detect X11 systems where the font chosen has no italics
version.]
- define a new format like @var{foo}.
- change the help-mode to fiddle with those and only those.
- change the fill code to try and not count the @var{...} annotation.
- ...
If someone comes up with an actual use for those changes (rather than just
minor aesthetics tweaks), maybe I can buy them, but as it stands I find it
just a waste of effort.
Especially since experience on gnu.emacs.help seems to indicate that most
users don't spend that much time and effort reading docstrings.
The current convention is simple and safe, and as far as I can tell it's
quite sufficient as well. The changes discussed here seem to be about
a new convention which is not simple, and more importantly not safe.
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-05-12 20:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 173+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-05-07 5:32 new *Help* argument highlighting Miles Bader
2004-05-07 8:39 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-08 22:22 ` Juri Linkov
2004-05-08 23:32 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-08 23:47 ` Juri Linkov
2004-05-09 0:14 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-08 23:49 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-09 0:09 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-09 18:47 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-09 22:25 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-09 22:54 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-09 23:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-09 23:48 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-10 0:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-10 0:11 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-10 0:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-10 0:53 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-10 1:32 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-10 7:24 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-10 2:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-10 7:37 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-10 12:45 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2004-05-10 13:01 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-10 16:18 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-05-10 19:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-10 21:54 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-05-11 15:57 ` Juri Linkov
2004-05-11 20:58 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-11 21:51 ` Juri Linkov
2004-05-11 22:58 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-11 22:08 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-05-11 0:07 ` Juri Linkov
2004-05-11 2:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-11 15:28 ` Juri Linkov
2004-05-11 17:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-10 17:54 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-10 21:10 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-10 21:28 ` David Kastrup
2004-05-10 21:41 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-10 21:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-10 22:12 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-10 21:47 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-10 21:57 ` David Kastrup
2004-05-10 22:10 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-10 22:26 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-11 8:11 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-12 7:51 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-12 8:15 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-12 8:58 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-12 9:25 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-12 9:32 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-13 15:45 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-13 17:33 ` David Kastrup
2004-05-13 15:45 ` Richard Stallman
2004-06-11 10:53 ` Bug tracking (was: new *Help* argument highlighting) Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-11 11:20 ` Bug tracking Lars Hansen
2004-06-11 11:33 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-11 11:39 ` Bug tracking (was: new *Help* argument highlighting) Kim F. Storm
2004-06-11 12:40 ` Bug tracking Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-11 14:21 ` Bug tracking (was: new *Help* argument highlighting) Miles Bader
2004-06-11 15:11 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-06-11 22:29 ` Miles Bader
2004-06-12 9:45 ` Richard Stallman
2004-06-12 1:50 ` Richard Stallman
2004-06-12 2:12 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-12 8:15 ` Lars Hansen
2004-06-13 0:01 ` Richard Stallman
2004-06-13 0:20 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-12 8:37 ` Bug tracking Juri Linkov
2004-06-12 9:38 ` Lars Hansen
2004-06-12 15:28 ` Juri Linkov
2004-06-14 13:52 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-06-14 15:09 ` Juri Linkov
2004-06-14 15:38 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-14 16:32 ` Juri Linkov
2004-06-13 0:01 ` Richard Stallman
2004-06-13 0:05 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-13 11:55 ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-06-13 14:34 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-13 16:04 ` Juri Linkov
2004-06-14 18:50 ` Richard Stallman
2004-06-14 21:41 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-14 23:09 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-06-14 23:33 ` Miles Bader
2004-06-15 8:11 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-06-16 16:57 ` Richard Stallman
2004-06-13 22:26 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-06-13 23:52 ` Miles Bader
2004-06-12 12:47 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-12 15:38 ` Juri Linkov
2004-06-12 22:09 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-12 23:06 ` Miles Bader
2004-06-13 0:08 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-13 0:50 ` Miles Bader
2004-06-13 1:07 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-13 16:00 ` Juri Linkov
2004-06-13 22:52 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-13 23:56 ` Miles Bader
2004-06-14 7:20 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-14 7:31 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-14 16:40 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2004-06-14 21:36 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-15 1:36 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2004-06-15 13:58 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-13 21:49 ` Richard Stallman
2004-06-13 23:03 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-13 0:01 ` Richard Stallman
2004-06-12 18:26 ` Bug tracking (was: new *Help* argument highlighting) Karl Fogel
2004-06-12 20:03 ` Karl Fogel
2004-06-13 2:39 ` Miles Bader
2004-06-12 21:01 ` Karl Fogel
2004-06-13 3:34 ` Miles Bader
2004-06-12 21:52 ` Karl Fogel
2004-06-13 11:31 ` Bug tracking Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-13 13:28 ` Miles Bader
2004-06-13 14:38 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-13 12:19 ` Bug tracking (was: new *Help* argument highlighting) Jason Rumney
2004-06-13 9:06 ` David Kastrup
2004-06-13 14:26 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-06-13 14:36 ` Karl Fogel
2004-06-13 23:29 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-06-13 14:29 ` Bug tracking Oliver Scholz
2004-06-14 18:50 ` Richard Stallman
2004-06-14 21:17 ` Tak Ota
2004-06-16 16:57 ` Richard Stallman
2004-06-16 17:59 ` Tak Ota
2004-06-14 18:50 ` Bug tracking (was: new *Help* argument highlighting) Richard Stallman
2004-06-14 20:19 ` Karl Fogel
2004-06-16 16:58 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-12 10:47 ` new *Help* argument highlighting Kenichi Handa
2004-05-12 11:10 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-12 11:25 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-12 11:47 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-12 13:01 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-12 13:15 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-12 14:06 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-12 13:09 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-12 22:18 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-17 1:14 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-17 2:30 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-18 12:54 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-17 14:46 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-17 22:23 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-12 23:28 ` fill docstring (Re: new *Help* argument highlighting) Kenichi Handa
2004-05-17 1:16 ` new *Help* argument highlighting Kenichi Handa
2004-05-17 7:02 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-17 7:16 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-12 12:53 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-12 13:22 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-12 13:43 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-11 9:02 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-10 23:42 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-11 8:14 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-11 12:23 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-11 13:56 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-11 14:36 ` David Kastrup
2004-05-11 14:53 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-12 19:40 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-12 20:12 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2004-05-13 1:18 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-13 1:30 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-13 1:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-13 7:04 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-13 14:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-13 21:25 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-13 1:25 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-14 9:20 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-11 16:51 ` Kevin Rodgers
2004-05-11 18:30 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-12 0:04 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-12 18:29 ` Romain Francoise
2004-05-13 1:31 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-13 6:55 ` Romain Francoise
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