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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: akater <nuclearspace@gmail.com>
Cc: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de>,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Some improvements for cl-flet
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2021 14:03:06 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvo880btzo.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sfxdr2ds.fsf@gmail.com> (akater's message of "Thu, 07 Oct 2021 02:32:15 +0000")

> I must leave one more notice.
>
> What will the following forms return, with cl-flet being implemented as is?
>
> (let ((n 0))
>   (cl-symbol-macrolet ((f0 (progn (cl-incf n) #'identity)))
>     (cl-flet ((f f0))
>       (f t) (f t)
>       n)))
>
> (let ((n 0))
>   (cl-symbol-macrolet ((f0 (progn (cl-incf n) #'identity)))
>     (cl-flet ((f (identity f0)))
>       (f t) (f t)
>       n)))
>
> Turns out, the value is not determined by cl-flet spec but rather by its implementation.

Yup, the same problem affects (pcase f0 ...) and many other
macros.  Luckily symbol macros are rarely used.

>> I see your point.  OTOH, removing the expression syntax case would be a
>> backward incompatible change potentially break existing code - right?
> Introducing it potentially broke existing code in the first place.

In theory yes.  But:
- That's already broken and we can't unbreak it.
- There's been no report of such a case, so it is just be hypothetical
  at this point.
I suggest that if we want to align Common Lisp and `cl-flet`, the better
fix is to improve Common Lisp so it works like `cl-flet` ;-)


        Stefan




  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-07 18:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-11 12:51 Some improvements for cl-flet akater
2021-09-11 23:32 ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-09-12  3:35   ` akater
2021-09-12 15:38     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-13  0:14     ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-09-13  2:26       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-07  2:32       ` akater
2021-10-07 18:03         ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2021-10-08 21:57           ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-09  5:23             ` akater
2021-10-09  6:01               ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-10-09 23:37                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-10 10:41                   ` Po Lu
2021-10-10 20:27                     ` João Távora
2021-10-10 21:57                       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-11  0:45                       ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-10-11 21:16                     ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-11 21:26                       ` João Távora
2021-10-12 22:42                         ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-12  0:05                       ` Po Lu
2021-10-12  0:29                       ` Robin Tarsiger
2021-10-12 22:43                         ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-09 23:33               ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-09 23:33               ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-14  4:00               ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-09-23 22:37 ` [PATCH] " akater
2021-09-23 22:41   ` akater
2021-09-24  7:11     ` João Távora
2021-09-24 15:20       ` [PATCH] Some improvements for cl-flet, and some more akater
2021-09-24 16:22         ` João Távora
2021-09-25  1:28         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-25  8:37           ` João Távora
2021-09-24 20:30     ` [PATCH] Some improvements for cl-flet akater
2021-09-26  6:54     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-26 12:04       ` akater
2021-09-26 12:36         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-03  3:51     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-07  5:02       ` akater
2021-10-07 18:23         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-03 12:59           ` akater
2021-11-09 20:37             ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-09  5:33       ` akater

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