Using Dismal V1.5 after updates

Using Dismal V1.5 after updates

[OURY, JACOB DAVID]

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Hi,

My name is Jacob Oury and I'm a doctoral candidate advised by Frank Ritter (an original Dismal dev!) and I'm trying to get Dismal working on the latest version of EMACS. I've found a few issues, and I'm hoping you could provide some advice. I'll describe them below.


  1.  I believe Dismal V1.5 is missing a key file for running dismal. Per the description, the package should include a file called dismal-mode-defaults.el, however this is not available in the elpa.gnu package repo. I was able to work around this issue by acquiring a previous version of Dismal from my advisor and manually loading that file. Without that, I am unsure if I could get this package running. Per the Git records at http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/elpa.git/log/?h=externals/dismal, it looks like that file was deleted in update below. I think this may have broken the package and I'm hoping to find out why that file was deleted.
author  Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>       2013-06-06 16:20:37 -0400
committer       Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>       2013-06-06 16:20:37 -0400
commit  554819b2d3c2e3d4494845a23deffd7245349a56<http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/elpa.git/commit/?h=externals/dismal&id=554819b2d3c2e3d4494845a23deffd7245349a56> (patch<http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/elpa.git/patch/?id=554819b2d3c2e3d4494845a23deffd7245349a56>)
tree    c4b11570454318e4dba291c1732f18e8dc639a58<http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/elpa.git/tree/?h=externals/dismal&id=554819b2d3c2e3d4494845a23deffd7245349a56>
parent  18a2365ebc31e03bce64aa45227a5e6f5e869bad<http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/elpa.git/commit/?h=externals/dismal&id=18a2365ebc31e03bce64aa45227a5e6f5e869bad> (diff<http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/elpa.git/diff/?h=externals/dismal&id=554819b2d3c2e3d4494845a23deffd7245349a56&id2=18a2365ebc31e03bce64aa45227a5e6f5e869bad>)
download        elpa-554819b2d3c2e3d4494845a23deffd7245349a56.tar.gz<http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/elpa.git/snapshot/elpa-554819b2d3c2e3d4494845a23deffd7245349a56.tar.gz>
General cleanup for GNU ELPA
  2.  Once I got the defaults loaded, I also am running into issues during testing (dis-test-dismal). It initially runs, however, the test fails when trying to insert a simple math equation into a cell:

dis-edit-cell-plain((+ 2 3))

While running the test, the process fails with the message:  "dismal-set-cell-internals: Symbol’s value as variable is void: index". I believe this may be due to some effect of the outdated heaps.el package, however Frank's version of Dismal (Dismal V1.4 running on Emacs 25.X, on MacOS) runs fine. I'm using a Windows computer so that could play a role. When tracing the test through the debugger, it fails immediately following a call to heap-empty with the info shown below. I'm still figuring out the debugger, and I don't have a more thorough printout of the trace at the moment.

Debugger entered--entering a function:
* command-error-default-function((void-variable index) "" dismal-set-cell-internals)
  recursive-edit()
;;Debugger cleared most of its text once the void variable error occurs, so the excerpts from immediately before the error are below this line and the output from the debugger is above.
* heap-empty([dismal-address-compare 1 0 [nil]])
* heap-member((3 . 0) [dismal-address-compare 1 0 [nil]])
* dismal-invalidate-cell((3 . 0))
* dismal-set-cell-internals(3 0 (+ 2 3) nil)
* dismal-set-cell(3 0 (+ 2 3) nil)
* dismal-edit-cell((+ 2 3) nil)

I'm an EMACS novice (I generally work on the experimental cognitive psychology side of things while my labmates are more focused on using ACT-R for cognitive models), and so I may have made some missteps here, but I've been working with Frank during some debugging and still not having any luck so I'd appreciate any and all help you could provide on these issues. Thanks so much!

Best regards,

Jacob D. Oury
Doctoral Candidate in Informatics
Applied Cognitive Science Lab
Penn State College of Information Sciences and Technology

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Re: Using Dismal V1.5 after updates

[Stefan Monnier]

> 1 I believe Dismal V1.5 is missing a key file for running dismal.

It would be helpful to give concrete reasons why you think so (rather
than just because of something you read): what have you tried and what
failed to happen (and what happened instead)?

> 2 Once I got the defaults loaded, I also am running into issues during testing (dis-test-dismal). It
>  initially runs, however, the test fails when trying to insert a simple math equation into a cell: 
>
>  dis-edit-cell-plain((+ 2 3))
>
>  While running the test, the process fails with the message:  "dismal-set-cell-internals: Symbol’s
>  value as variable is void: index".

Thanks I'm going to look into that (and the backtrace was very welcome).
Probably something I missed when I converted the code to lexical scoping.


        Stefan

Re: Using Dismal V1.5 after updates

[T.V Raman]

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"OURY, JACOB DAVID" <Jacob.Oury@psu.edu> writes:

glad someone is finally looking at this, dismal was my goto spreadsheet
solution and I'd love to see it come back --- in its absence I use
org-mode and its embedded functionality which is good enough for simple
things, but dismal would complete the emacs suite.

> Hi, 
>
> My name is Jacob Oury and I'm a doctoral candidate advised by Frank
> Ritter (an original Dismal dev!) and I'm trying to get Dismal working
> on the latest version of EMACS. I've found a few issues, and I'm
> hoping you could provide some advice. I'll describe them below. 
>
> 1 I believe Dismal V1.5 is missing a key file for running dismal. Per
>   the description, the package should include a file called
>   dismal-mode-defaults.el, however this is not available in the
>   elpa.gnu package repo. I was able to work around this issue by
>   acquiring a previous version of Dismal from my advisor and manually
>   loading that file. Without that, I am unsure if I could get this
>   package running. Per the Git records at
>   http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/elpa.git/log/?h=externals/dismal,
>   it looks like that file was deleted in update below. I think this
>   may have broken the package and I'm hoping to find out why that file
>   was deleted.  
>
>   author Stefan Monnier 2013-06-06 16:20:37 
>    <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> -0400 
>   committer Stefan Monnier 2013-06-06 16:20:37 
>    <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> -0400 
>   commit 554819b2d3c2e3d4494845a23deffd7245349a56 (patch) 
>   tree c4b11570454318e4dba291c1732f18e8dc639a58 
>   parent 18a2365ebc31e03bce64aa45227a5e6f5e869bad (diff) 
>   download elpa-554819b2d3c2e3d4494845a23deffd7245349a56.tar.gz 
>   General cleanup for GNU ELPA
> 2 Once I got the defaults loaded, I also am running into issues during
>   testing (dis-test-dismal). It initially runs, however, the test
>   fails when trying to insert a simple math equation into a cell: 
>
>   dis-edit-cell-plain((+ 2 3))
>
>   While running the test, the process fails with the message: 
>   "dismal-set-cell-internals: Symbol¡¯s value as variable is void:
>   index". I believe this may be due to some effect of the outdated
>   heaps.el package, however Frank's version of Dismal (Dismal V1.4
>   running on Emacs 25.X, on MacOS) runs fine. I'm using a Windows
>   computer so that could play a role. When tracing the test through
>   the debugger, it fails immediately following a call to heap-empty
>   with the info shown below. I'm still figuring out the debugger, and
>   I don't have a more thorough printout of the trace at the moment. 
>
>   Debugger entered--entering a function:
>   * command-error-default-function((void-variable index) ""
>   dismal-set-cell-internals)
>     recursive-edit()
>   ;;Debugger cleared most of its text once the void variable error
>   occurs, so the excerpts from immediately before the error are below
>   this line and the output from the debugger is above. 
>   * heap-empty([dismal-address-compare 1 0 [nil]])
>   * heap-member((3 . 0) [dismal-address-compare 1 0 [nil]])
>   * dismal-invalidate-cell((3 . 0))
>   * dismal-set-cell-internals(3 0 (+ 2 3) nil)
>   * dismal-set-cell(3 0 (+ 2 3) nil)
>   * dismal-edit-cell((+ 2 3) nil)
>
> I'm an EMACS novice (I generally work on the experimental cognitive
> psychology side of things while my labmates are more focused on using
> ACT-R for cognitive models), and so I may have made some missteps
> here, but I've been working with Frank during some debugging and still
> not having any luck so I'd appreciate any and all help you could
> provide on these issues. Thanks so much!
>
> Best regards, 
>
> Jacob D. Oury
> Doctoral Candidate in Informatics
> Applied Cognitive Science Lab
> Penn State College of Information Sciences and Technology 
>

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Thanks,

--Raman
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Re: Using Dismal V1.5 after updates

[Stefan Monnier]

I pushed a new version 1.5.2 to elpa.git which should appear on
elpa.gnu.org soon.  This should hopefully fix your problems (at least
the nb 2 and maybe nb 1 as well).


        Stefan


OURY, JACOB DAVID [2021-05-20 20:16:24] wrote:

> Hi, 
>
> My name is Jacob Oury and I'm a doctoral candidate advised by Frank Ritter (an original Dismal dev!)
> and I'm trying to get Dismal working on the latest version of EMACS. I've found a few issues, and I'm
> hoping you could provide some advice. I'll describe them below. 
>
> 1 I believe Dismal V1.5 is missing a key file for running dismal. Per the description, the package should
>  include a file called dismal-mode-defaults.el, however this is not available in the elpa.gnu package
>  repo. I was able to work around this issue by acquiring a previous version of Dismal from my
>  advisor and manually loading that file. Without that, I am unsure if I could get this package running.
>  Per the Git records at http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/elpa.git/log/?h=externals/dismal, it
>  looks like that file was deleted in update below. I think this may have broken the package and I'm
>  hoping to find out why that file was deleted.  
>
>  author Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> 2013-06-06 16:20:37 -0400 
>  committer Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> 2013-06-06 16:20:37 -0400 
>  commit 554819b2d3c2e3d4494845a23deffd7245349a56 (patch) 
>  tree c4b11570454318e4dba291c1732f18e8dc639a58 
>  parent 18a2365ebc31e03bce64aa45227a5e6f5e869bad (diff) 
>  download elpa-554819b2d3c2e3d4494845a23deffd7245349a56.tar.gz 
>  General cleanup for GNU ELPA
> 2 Once I got the defaults loaded, I also am running into issues during testing (dis-test-dismal). It
>  initially runs, however, the test fails when trying to insert a simple math equation into a cell: 
>
>  dis-edit-cell-plain((+ 2 3))
>
>  While running the test, the process fails with the message:  "dismal-set-cell-internals: Symbol’s
>  value as variable is void: index". I believe this may be due to some effect of the outdated heaps.el
>  package, however Frank's version of Dismal (Dismal V1.4 running on Emacs 25.X, on MacOS) runs
>  fine. I'm using a Windows computer so that could play a role. When tracing the test through the
>  debugger, it fails immediately following a call to heap-empty with the info shown below. I'm still
>  figuring out the debugger, and I don't have a more thorough printout of the trace at the moment. 
>
>  Debugger entered--entering a function:
>  * command-error-default-function((void-variable index) "" dismal-set-cell-internals)
>    recursive-edit()
>  ;;Debugger cleared most of its text once the void variable error occurs, so the excerpts from
>  immediately before the error are below this line and the output from the debugger is above. 
>  * heap-empty([dismal-address-compare 1 0 [nil]])
>  * heap-member((3 . 0) [dismal-address-compare 1 0 [nil]])
>  * dismal-invalidate-cell((3 . 0))
>  * dismal-set-cell-internals(3 0 (+ 2 3) nil)
>  * dismal-set-cell(3 0 (+ 2 3) nil)
>  * dismal-edit-cell((+ 2 3) nil)
>
> I'm an EMACS novice (I generally work on the experimental cognitive psychology side of things while
> my labmates are more focused on using ACT-R for cognitive models), and so I may have made some
> missteps here, but I've been working with Frank during some debugging and still not having any luck
> so I'd appreciate any and all help you could provide on these issues. Thanks so much!
>
> Best regards, 
>
> Jacob D. Oury
> Doctoral Candidate in Informatics
> Applied Cognitive Science Lab
> Penn State College of Information Sciences and Technology 

Re: Using Dismal V1.5 after updates

[Stefan Monnier]

> glad someone is finally looking at this, dismal was my goto spreadsheet
> solution and I'd love to see it come back --- in its absence I use
> org-mode and its embedded functionality which is good enough for simple
> things, but dismal would complete the emacs suite.

I just didn't know it wasn't working!


        Stefan

Re: Using Dismal V1.5 after updates

[Stefan Monnier]

Stefan Monnier [2021-05-20 21:40:18] wrote:
>> glad someone is finally looking at this, dismal was my goto spreadsheet
>> solution and I'd love to see it come back --- in its absence I use
>> org-mode and its embedded functionality which is good enough for simple
>> things, but dismal would complete the emacs suite.
> I just didn't know it wasn't working!

BTW, I just pushed a code update for Dismal which makes it use
lexical-binding everywhere, fixes a conflict with the `heap` GNU ELPA
library, and should address all the remaining warnings.

It should appear soonish at http://elpa.gnu.org/devel/dismal.html
Any chance you could try it out a report any errors (or success)?


        Stefan

Re: Using Dismal V1.5 after updates

[OURY, JACOB DAVID]

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That was quick! Thanks so much for the prompt response Stefan. I'll take a look today and let you know.

Best,

Jake
________________________________
From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2021 11:04 PM
To: T.V Raman <raman@google.com>
Cc: OURY, JACOB DAVID <Jacob.Oury@psu.edu>; emacs-devel@gnu.org <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Using Dismal V1.5 after updates

Stefan Monnier [2021-05-20 21:40:18] wrote:
>> glad someone is finally looking at this, dismal was my goto spreadsheet
>> solution and I'd love to see it come back --- in its absence I use
>> org-mode and its embedded functionality which is good enough for simple
>> things, but dismal would complete the emacs suite.
> I just didn't know it wasn't working!

BTW, I just pushed a code update for Dismal which makes it use
lexical-binding everywhere, fixes a conflict with the `heap` GNU ELPA
library, and should address all the remaining warnings.

It should appear soonish at https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Felpa.gnu.org%2Fdevel%2Fdismal.html&amp;data=04%7C01%7CJacob.Oury%40psu.edu%7C14f8440b4947413cde6608d91c0519d8%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C637571630504606738%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=Rx2SyJOXO0ZQoJN4G5VrGp2WfUhXdPFbxRw9D1cZxqg%3D&amp;reserved=0
Any chance you could try it out a report any errors (or success)?


        Stefan


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Re: Using Dismal V1.5 after updates

[Oury, Jacob David]

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Hi Stefan,

I'm so sorry for the delay in getting back to you.  While I initially thought everything with Dismal 1.5.2 was working well, I have been finding some issues lately. I will try to follow the EMACS Bug Tracker style to provide better details on the issue, but I appreciate your patience. I've attached several additional files described below. Hopefully my bug report proficiency has improved since our last exchange!

  1.  Figures from ...PDF shows the figures that I reference in the text below
  2.   Emacs_Bug_Report... shows the output from emacs M-x report-emacs-bug
  3.  The three .dis files that I used while creating this bug report.

General description: The Dismal 1.5.2 package fails to properly redraw the content on the screen in response to editing the table. This occurs in new .dis files and in the test file created with M-X dis-test-dismal.

With the test file created by dis-test-dismal, the column headings become distorted as the test data and commands are run. Figure 1 (attached) shows the output of that command. Running the command dis-hard-redraw-row (key = r) in a row will redraw the row and correctly display the content below the column name line. (Figure 2 shows how Figure 1 changed after redrawing each row (hit r while in Row 0, it redraws row and moves cursor down to row 1, repeat). However, the column labels remain remain broken. After using the command dis-redraw, the column names are properly displayed (Figure 3).

I also encounter this issue with brand new .dis files. I created a new file titled normalization2.dis . This works and displays properly when file is first created. I added a column name to A0 using standard commands: e-your text-enter. This works properly. I move to B0 to add another column name. The name overlaps with Column A's name, but doesn't appear to be an issue. Then I move to C0 to add a 3rd column name after typing the name (e normalization enter) the label for column B disappears and the screen drawing issues occur. Figure 4 shows this.

The dis-redraw command appears to temporarily fix this issue (Figure 5 shows this), but further editing of the document leads back to the same issue. Using that same sheet from Figure 5, I added text entries (letter strings) to cells A1:A10. Dismal worked as expected for every single entry (A1:A9) until entering text into cell A10. After hitting enter for the text entry in cell A10, the display is clobbered (Figure 6). Figure 7 shows the results of dis-redraw on the clobbered page. I was able to replicate this effect with a brand new sheet. One at a time, A0 through A9 are edited (e) and given the entry "dog". Each command works as expected, until cell A10. Upon hitting enter, the screen clobbers and displays nothing except that last entry. You can explore other cells and see that the data appears to still be there, but you need to either hard-redraw the full screen or edit a cell to get the contents to display.

Finally, the redraw issue also occurs when loading a previous file. Figure 8 shows how a previously created .dis file appears immedietly after loading. The image might be small, but the cursor is highlighting the 2nd t in "written" along the top of the screen, but the mini-buffer shows that the cursor is in cell A0: Command Name. Again, dis-redraw appears to fix the display issues until further editing clobbers it (Figure 9 shows results of redraw. I was unable to re-clobber this sheet during testing here).

EMACS Version Number: EMACS 27.2 on Windows via the  emacs-27.2-i686-installer.exe available at the main GNU FTP server.
https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/windows/emacs-27/

OS Name and Version: In GNU Emacs 27.2 (build 1, x86_64-w64-mingw32)
 of 2021-03-26 built on CIRROCUMULUS
Repository revision: deef5efafb70f4b171265b896505b92b6eef24e6
Repository branch: HEAD
Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.19042
System Description: Microsoft Windows 10 Home (v10.0.2009.19042.1052)

Configure Command settings: Default settings, detailed in the attached bug report print out.

No modifications made to EMACS source


Best,

Jacob Oury

________________________________
From: OURY, JACOB DAVID <Jacob.Oury@psu.edu>
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2021 9:12 AM
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>; T.V Raman <raman@google.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Using Dismal V1.5 after updates

That was quick! Thanks so much for the prompt response Stefan. I'll take a look today and let you know.

Best,

Jake
________________________________
From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2021 11:04 PM
To: T.V Raman <raman@google.com>
Cc: OURY, JACOB DAVID <Jacob.Oury@psu.edu>; emacs-devel@gnu.org <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Using Dismal V1.5 after updates

Stefan Monnier [2021-05-20 21:40:18] wrote:
>> glad someone is finally looking at this, dismal was my goto spreadsheet
>> solution and I'd love to see it come back --- in its absence I use
>> org-mode and its embedded functionality which is good enough for simple
>> things, but dismal would complete the emacs suite.
> I just didn't know it wasn't working!

BTW, I just pushed a code update for Dismal which makes it use
lexical-binding everywhere, fixes a conflict with the `heap` GNU ELPA
library, and should address all the remaining warnings.

It should appear soonish at https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Felpa.gnu.org%2Fdevel%2Fdismal.html&amp;data=04%7C01%7CJacob.Oury%40psu.edu%7C14f8440b4947413cde6608d91c0519d8%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C637571630504606738%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=Rx2SyJOXO0ZQoJN4G5VrGp2WfUhXdPFbxRw9D1cZxqg%3D&amp;reserved=0
Any chance you could try it out a report any errors (or success)?


        Stefan


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Repository revision: deef5efafb70f4b171265b896505b92b6eef24e6
Repository branch: HEAD
Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.19042
System Description: Microsoft Windows 10 Home (v10.0.2009.19042.1052)

Recent messages:
Dismal mark set.
Copying range B10:B15
Copied range B10:B15
Pasting range B10:B15
Starting to update cycle ... 1 (6 cells)
Updated 1 times.
Inserting 1 row(s)...
Mark set
if: Wrong type argument: number-or-marker-p, --------------+
Redrawing row ... 23 of 22 [9 times]

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Important settings:
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Major mode: dismal

Minor modes in effect:
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;; -*- Mode: dismal -*-
;; This file was produced for user ouryj by dismal-mode (Vers 1.4)
;; This file written Thu Jun 17 16:18:54 2021
;; dismal-mode Copyright since 1992, Free Software Foundation, Inc.
;; No user serviceable parts, but it is your data.


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15                                         
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18                               
19                               
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