From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, pogonyshev@gmx.net
Subject: Re: Mode_switch in Emacs
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 11:24:48 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwv8xv7qvso.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mzjo2vvn.fsf@jurta.org> (Juri Linkov's message of "Tue, 29 Nov 2005 01:08:36 +0200")
>>> As I can see, everything works fine in CVS Emacs already. The Mode_switch
>>> key temporarily disables the russian layout while it is held in Emacs.
>>> Perhaps something is wrong in Paul's configuration where Mode_switch
>>> doesn't work correctly.
>>
>> Does that hold for XIM russian layout or for LEIM russian layout or
>> for both?
> For XIM russian layout.
OK. So I guess I misunderstood Paul (or he has a different config
in which this doesn't work, in which case he should clarify).
> If the LEIM russian input method is enabled in Emacs, I think it is too
> much to ask Emacs to temporarily disable the input method while
> Mode_switch is held.
It's not high-priority, but I think it would be good if it could be made
to work.
> As I understand even XEmacs doesn't try to do this.
XEmacs doesn't always do "more".
> I see no reason to activate both XIM russian layout and LEIM russian
> input method in Emacs.
I hope we indeed all agree on this one ;-)
Tho now that you mention it, I'm wondering: how do people deal with the
situation where their keyboard is cyrillic and they want to use one of
Emacs's input methods (which are all based on latin chars)?
> Somewhere С-ц may be preferable to C-w, but at least in Emacs I think
> interpreting С-ц as C-w is more natural. However, this is still not
> very useful in Emacs because it will enable only key sequences with
> control/meta modifiers, but not with raw letters. I.e. what good is
> to process С-ц as C-w, if `C-x b' will produce useless `C-x и'?
Oh boy! that's a very good point indeed. It basically means we should
postpone the decision whether to translate b into и to much later.
Now how does all the above look in the case of XIM input methods that map
multi-key sequences to chars (typically for asian scripts)?
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-11-29 16:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-11-22 19:50 wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed Paul Pogonyshev
2005-11-22 22:31 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-11-23 5:14 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-23 19:52 ` Paul Pogonyshev
2005-11-25 15:50 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-25 18:00 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-11-23 6:07 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-24 17:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-11-24 19:45 ` Paul Pogonyshev
2005-11-24 20:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-11-25 19:37 ` Paul Pogonyshev
2005-11-25 22:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-11-25 22:33 ` Paul Pogonyshev
2005-11-25 22:44 ` Aidan Kehoe
2005-11-26 16:43 ` Paul Pogonyshev
2005-11-27 5:26 ` Tomas Zerolo
2005-11-26 8:15 ` Eugene Vlasov
2005-11-26 19:44 ` Paul Pogonyshev
2005-11-28 20:33 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-26 15:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-11-26 16:46 ` Paul Pogonyshev
2005-11-27 18:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-11-27 21:39 ` Paul Pogonyshev
2005-11-28 2:39 ` Mode_switch in Emacs (was: wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed) Stefan Monnier
2005-11-28 20:27 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-28 22:14 ` Mode_switch in Emacs Stefan Monnier
2005-11-28 23:08 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-29 16:24 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2005-11-29 19:54 ` Paul Pogonyshev
2005-11-30 2:43 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-28 20:27 ` wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed Juri Linkov
2005-11-28 23:14 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-26 4:22 ` Richard M. Stallman
[not found] ` <200511261925.20191.pogonyshev@gmx.net>
[not found] ` <17288.41589.506361.323637@parhasard.net>
2005-11-26 23:01 ` thoughts on interaction of key bindings and input methods (was Re: wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed) Paul Pogonyshev
2005-11-27 1:48 ` Ben Wing
2005-11-27 5:35 ` Tomas Zerolo
2005-11-27 11:29 ` thoughts on interaction of key bindings and input methods (was Re: wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed ) Paul Pogonyshev
2005-11-28 5:25 ` thoughts on interaction of key bindings and input methods (was Re: wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed) Ben Wing
2005-11-28 19:09 ` Paul Pogonyshev
2005-11-27 18:35 ` Aidan Kehoe
2005-11-28 2:39 ` wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed Stefan Monnier
2005-11-28 20:28 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-28 22:16 ` Stefan Monnier
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