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From: Paul Pogonyshev <pogonyshev@gmx.net>
Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Subject: Re: wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 21:37:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200511252137.13822.pogonyshev@gmx.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87iruhahvv.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > Emacs has no way of handling it correctly out-of-the-box, since it uses
> > internal input methods, which are a completely separate from `xkb'.
> 
> You mean you use Emacs's internal input methods.  I occasionally use them as
> well, but I mostly use XIM input methods and they work just fine with Emacs.

You could put it that way, yes.  However, with Russian layout, it is almost
impossible to do otherwise.  If I switch my `global' layout (handled by KDE,
which AFAIK falls back to `xkb'), I get this on response to `M-d':

  M-в is undefined

Working with Emacs with essentially all commands except `self-insert-command'
disabled is not something I like.  I guess your second layout also works with
Latin alphabet, so it's not a problem for you.

> >> Can you check with `xev' to see what events your right Alt key generates?
> > It shows up as `Super_R', while the left Alt is `Alt_L'.
> 
> So maybe the physical key is located on the right side of the space bar and
> it has a little bit of text on it that says "alt", so *you* think of it as
> a "right alt key".
> But as far as X clients are concerned this is not a "right alt key".

Uh, I just checked again, it is actually `Mode_switch' for X, I must have
pressed the right key with the Windows logo the previous time.

So yes, let me rephrase.  I wish `Mode_switch' would deactivate the current
input method while pressed in Emacs.  Or so that I could turn such feature
on with something as simple as `setq ... t'.

Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2005-11-25 19:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-22 19:50 wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed Paul Pogonyshev
2005-11-22 22:31 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-11-23  5:14 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-23 19:52   ` Paul Pogonyshev
2005-11-25 15:50     ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-25 18:00       ` Andreas Schwab
2005-11-23  6:07 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-24 17:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-11-24 19:45   ` Paul Pogonyshev
2005-11-24 20:56     ` Stefan Monnier
2005-11-25 19:37       ` Paul Pogonyshev [this message]
2005-11-25 22:17         ` Stefan Monnier
2005-11-25 22:33           ` Paul Pogonyshev
2005-11-25 22:44             ` Aidan Kehoe
2005-11-26 16:43               ` Paul Pogonyshev
2005-11-27  5:26                 ` Tomas Zerolo
2005-11-26  8:15             ` Eugene Vlasov
2005-11-26 19:44               ` Paul Pogonyshev
2005-11-28 20:33                 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-26 15:10             ` Stefan Monnier
2005-11-26 16:46               ` Paul Pogonyshev
2005-11-27 18:19                 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-11-27 21:39                   ` Paul Pogonyshev
2005-11-28  2:39                     ` Mode_switch in Emacs (was: wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed) Stefan Monnier
2005-11-28 20:27                       ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-28 22:14                         ` Mode_switch in Emacs Stefan Monnier
2005-11-28 23:08                           ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-29 16:24                             ` Stefan Monnier
2005-11-29 19:54                               ` Paul Pogonyshev
2005-11-30  2:43                               ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-28 20:27               ` wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed Juri Linkov
2005-11-28 23:14                 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-26  4:22       ` Richard M. Stallman
     [not found] ` <200511261925.20191.pogonyshev@gmx.net>
     [not found]   ` <17288.41589.506361.323637@parhasard.net>
2005-11-26 23:01     ` thoughts on interaction of key bindings and input methods (was Re: wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed) Paul Pogonyshev
2005-11-27  1:48       ` Ben Wing
2005-11-27  5:35         ` Tomas Zerolo
2005-11-27 11:29         ` thoughts on interaction of key bindings and input methods (was Re: wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed ) Paul Pogonyshev
2005-11-28  5:25           ` thoughts on interaction of key bindings and input methods (was Re: wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed) Ben Wing
2005-11-28 19:09             ` Paul Pogonyshev
2005-11-27 18:35         ` Aidan Kehoe
2005-11-28  2:39 ` wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed Stefan Monnier
2005-11-28 20:28   ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-28 22:16     ` Stefan Monnier

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