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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: daniele@grinta.net, stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: decision on moving core packages to ELPA; also move to obsolete?
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 13:35:01 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwv36054ndq.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83pn398wol.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 16 Dec 2020 19:53:14 +0200")

> Here's what I think we should have working to start bundling ELPA
> packages:

Then I think the "git submodule" approach proposed earlier by Andrea
is the better solution: every ELPA package we want to include will have
a branch in `emacs.git` (e.g. with name `elpa/[PKGNAME]`) and in Emacs's
`master` branch we will add git submodules which refer to (specific
revisions on) those branches.

This way a Git checkout can also contain those ELPA packages.  We can
easily control which version of a package is included into any given
version of Emacs because git submodules refer to specific revisions.
And those `elpa/[PKGNAME]` branches can easily kept in sync with
the corresponding branches in `elpa.git` (and upstream if applicable).

>  3. Users
>
>     We need a clear picture of how this Emacs will be installed and
>     used, both when installed from a distro and when built locally
>     from the source tarball.  Maybe there's nothing to discuss here,
>     but I at least don't yet have such a clear picture.  It should be
>     possible to install, upgrade, and downgrade such packages, as much
>     as possible using the same package.el commands as for unbundled
>     packages.  As a minimum, AFAIU we will need to provide a directory
>     in the tarball/installation that will have the same role as
>     ~/.emacs.d/elpa/, because a tarball cannot possibly install files
>     in the users' home directories.

We will place the submodules under some `elpa` subdirectory of our
choice after which we simply have to add that directory to the default
value of `package-directory-list`.


        Stefan




  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-16 18:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-14 19:59 decision on moving core packages to ELPA; also move to obsolete? Stephen Leake
2020-12-14 20:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-14 23:40   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-15  5:06     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-15  9:32       ` Daniele Nicolodi
2020-12-15 16:57         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-15 17:03           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-15 17:30             ` Glenn Morris
2020-12-15 17:43               ` Glenn Morris
2020-12-15 17:54                 ` Glenn Morris
2020-12-15 19:50               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-15 18:28             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-15 18:49               ` Stephen Leake
2020-12-15 18:53                 ` Stephen Leake
2020-12-15 19:13                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-15 19:54                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-15 20:11                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-15 20:55                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-12-16 15:33                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-16 16:09                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-12-15 22:01                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-16  3:13                           ` Tests in core depending on GNU ELPA packages (was: decision on moving core packages to ELPA; also move to obsolete?) Thomas Fitzsimmons
2020-12-16  3:24                             ` Tests in core depending on GNU ELPA packages Stefan Monnier
2021-02-19  1:09                               ` Thomas Fitzsimmons
2021-02-19  1:15                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-16 17:53                           ` decision on moving core packages to ELPA; also move to obsolete? Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-16 18:35                             ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2020-12-16 19:23                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-16 20:01                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-16 20:05                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-16 20:13                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-16 19:46                       ` Stephen Leake
2020-12-16 20:10                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-16 19:21                     ` Stephen Leake
2020-12-16 19:56                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-15 19:57                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-15 20:16                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-15 22:09                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-16  8:29                       ` Michael Albinus
2020-12-16 14:20                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-16 14:42                           ` Michael Albinus
2020-12-16  8:47                       ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-16 17:56                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-16 18:46                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-16 19:28                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-16 20:05                             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-15 18:33             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-15 20:11               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-15 20:29                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-15 22:25                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-16 17:59                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-16 18:50                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-16 19:32                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-16 20:06                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-16 20:19                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-16 21:03                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-16 19:44                   ` Stephen Leake
2020-12-16 20:01                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-10 23:05                     ` ELPA notes, README Stephen Leake
2021-01-10 23:14                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-15 14:05       ` decision on moving core packages to ELPA; also move to obsolete? Stefan Monnier
2020-12-15 17:04         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-15 17:28           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-15  5:46   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-15 18:50     ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-07 17:33 ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-07 20:00   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-08 17:00     ` Stephen Leake

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