From: Stephen Leake <stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: daniele@grinta.net, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: decision on moving core packages to ELPA; also move to obsolete?
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 11:44:48 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <867dphmt73.fsf@stephe-leake.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83eejqak4s.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 15 Dec 2020 22:29:07 +0200")
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> AFAIK all the investigation that can be done has been done. I don't
>> doubt that there will be issues to resolve, but I don't think we will
>> find them before we actually start doing it.
>
> We are being asked to "start doing it" right now in emacs-27.
No, in master, for the 28 release ("it" meaning bundling ada-mode and
maybe other ELPA packages in the release tarball).
> I'm sorry, but this is not a serious suggestion, given the state of
> the affairs and the number of issues for which we just think we know
> how to solve them. Like that pianist that knows how to play the piano,
> but has never tried.
>
> And what does it mean "start doing it", really? We prepare a tarball
> only once we start a pretest, by which time it's too late to
> experiment with untested machinery.
Clearly we need to test this; I suggest we create a branch
feature/bundle-elpa, and do a practice tarball release on that branch.
We also need a place to document decisions, rationales, and process; I
suggest admin/bundle-elpa to start. We may migrate parts of that into
other documents later.
--
-- Stephe
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-12-16 19:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-12-14 19:59 decision on moving core packages to ELPA; also move to obsolete? Stephen Leake
2020-12-14 20:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-14 23:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-15 5:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-15 9:32 ` Daniele Nicolodi
2020-12-15 16:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-15 17:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-15 17:30 ` Glenn Morris
2020-12-15 17:43 ` Glenn Morris
2020-12-15 17:54 ` Glenn Morris
2020-12-15 19:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-15 18:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-15 18:49 ` Stephen Leake
2020-12-15 18:53 ` Stephen Leake
2020-12-15 19:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-15 19:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-15 20:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-15 20:55 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-12-16 15:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-16 16:09 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-12-15 22:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-16 3:13 ` Tests in core depending on GNU ELPA packages (was: decision on moving core packages to ELPA; also move to obsolete?) Thomas Fitzsimmons
2020-12-16 3:24 ` Tests in core depending on GNU ELPA packages Stefan Monnier
2021-02-19 1:09 ` Thomas Fitzsimmons
2021-02-19 1:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-16 17:53 ` decision on moving core packages to ELPA; also move to obsolete? Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-16 18:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-16 19:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-16 20:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-16 20:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-16 20:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-16 19:46 ` Stephen Leake
2020-12-16 20:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-16 19:21 ` Stephen Leake
2020-12-16 19:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-15 19:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-15 20:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-15 22:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-16 8:29 ` Michael Albinus
2020-12-16 14:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-16 14:42 ` Michael Albinus
2020-12-16 8:47 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-16 17:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-16 18:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-16 19:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-16 20:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-15 18:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-15 20:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-15 20:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-15 22:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-16 17:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-16 18:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-16 19:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-16 20:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-16 20:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-16 21:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-16 19:44 ` Stephen Leake [this message]
2020-12-16 20:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-10 23:05 ` ELPA notes, README Stephen Leake
2021-01-10 23:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-15 14:05 ` decision on moving core packages to ELPA; also move to obsolete? Stefan Monnier
2020-12-15 17:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-15 17:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-15 5:46 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-15 18:50 ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-07 17:33 ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-07 20:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-08 17:00 ` Stephen Leake
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