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From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org, daniele@grinta.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: decision on moving core packages to ELPA; also move to obsolete?
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 22:55:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <81776be3-2bfe-2d5c-6aae-6d905426e5cf@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83h7omakyw.fsf@gnu.org>

On 15.12.2020 22:11, Eli Zaretskii wrote:

>>> So please describe how you envision the process of building a release
>>> tarball under this assumption.  E.g., how do I know which version of
>>> package A I want to bundle is stable enough to go to a bugfix elease
>>> of Emacs?
>>
>> I'd expect it to work the same as for Org, MH-E, Gnus, you name it.
> 
> What do you mean by "the same as"?  Currently, it is not our decision
> which Org/MH-E/etc. version will be in what Emacs branch.  The
> respective developers make that decision and simply push the version
> they decided into our repository.
> 
> Once we separate the repositories, the decision will have to be made
> by whoever prepares the tarball, and I don't see how he or she could
> be equipped to make that decision, nor how the packages are organized
> for this modus operandi.

Forgive me if that has already been suggested, but how about either:

- When making an Emacs X.YZ release, we require that every "external" 
package has a tag emacs-xyz in its repository, and we pull in and 
package that version.

- In the very same file in Emacs' tree that the repositories with 
external packages will be listed, we also list the corresponding 
revisions that will go into the upcoming release.

The latter is essentially the "git modules" model, which we can also 
use. One advantage it has is that the package author forgotten to push a 
tag for some Emacs release, we're still covered.



  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-15 20:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-14 19:59 decision on moving core packages to ELPA; also move to obsolete? Stephen Leake
2020-12-14 20:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-14 23:40   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-15  5:06     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-15  9:32       ` Daniele Nicolodi
2020-12-15 16:57         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-15 17:03           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-15 17:30             ` Glenn Morris
2020-12-15 17:43               ` Glenn Morris
2020-12-15 17:54                 ` Glenn Morris
2020-12-15 19:50               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-15 18:28             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-15 18:49               ` Stephen Leake
2020-12-15 18:53                 ` Stephen Leake
2020-12-15 19:13                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-15 19:54                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-15 20:11                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-15 20:55                         ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2020-12-16 15:33                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-16 16:09                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-12-15 22:01                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-16  3:13                           ` Tests in core depending on GNU ELPA packages (was: decision on moving core packages to ELPA; also move to obsolete?) Thomas Fitzsimmons
2020-12-16  3:24                             ` Tests in core depending on GNU ELPA packages Stefan Monnier
2021-02-19  1:09                               ` Thomas Fitzsimmons
2021-02-19  1:15                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-16 17:53                           ` decision on moving core packages to ELPA; also move to obsolete? Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-16 18:35                             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-16 19:23                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-16 20:01                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-16 20:05                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-16 20:13                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-16 19:46                       ` Stephen Leake
2020-12-16 20:10                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-16 19:21                     ` Stephen Leake
2020-12-16 19:56                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-15 19:57                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-15 20:16                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-15 22:09                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-16  8:29                       ` Michael Albinus
2020-12-16 14:20                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-16 14:42                           ` Michael Albinus
2020-12-16  8:47                       ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-16 17:56                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-16 18:46                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-16 19:28                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-16 20:05                             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-15 18:33             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-15 20:11               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-15 20:29                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-15 22:25                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-16 17:59                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-16 18:50                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-16 19:32                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-16 20:06                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-16 20:19                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-16 21:03                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-16 19:44                   ` Stephen Leake
2020-12-16 20:01                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-10 23:05                     ` ELPA notes, README Stephen Leake
2021-01-10 23:14                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-15 14:05       ` decision on moving core packages to ELPA; also move to obsolete? Stefan Monnier
2020-12-15 17:04         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-15 17:28           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-15  5:46   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-15 18:50     ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-07 17:33 ` Stephen Leake
2021-01-07 20:00   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-08 17:00     ` Stephen Leake

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