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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>,  Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>,
	 Gregory Heytings <gregory@heytings.org>,
	 emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: master 3fd2b00a4b 2/2: ; * Makefile.in: Add "make bootstrap configure=default" as a first choice.
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2022 09:46:39 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwv1qs7v5rv.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87illjtszs.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 19 Sep 2022 15:04:55 +0200")

> But why use the name "bootstrap" for something like that?
> "Bootstrap" implies that it's built from the ground up.

When compiling C files, with a pre-installed C compiler, you're not
bootstrapping anything.  Bootstrap comes into the picture when you need
to build something with the something you're building, and you thus need
to take extra steps to break the circular dependency (e.g. the use of
`ldefs-boot.el`, or the use of an ELisp interpreter to run the
not-yet-compiled code).

Without such circular dependency, Make rules can often express the real
dependencies precisely enough that you don't need a special Make target
to rebuild from scratch.


        Stefan




  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-09-19 13:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <20220919074155.2E6D7C00872@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org>
2022-09-19  7:46   ` master 3fd2b00a4b 2/2: ; * Makefile.in: Add "make bootstrap configure=default" as a first choice Po Lu
2022-09-19  7:52     ` Gregory Heytings
2022-09-19  7:50   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-19  7:52     ` Po Lu
2022-09-19  7:53     ` Gregory Heytings
2022-09-19  7:59       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-19  8:01         ` Po Lu
2022-09-19  9:29         ` Gregory Heytings
2022-09-19  9:41           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-19 10:13             ` Stefan Kangas
2022-09-19 12:15               ` Stefan Monnier
2022-09-19 12:25                 ` Po Lu
2022-09-19 12:33                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-19 12:51                   ` Po Lu
2022-09-19 13:02                     ` Stefan Monnier
2022-09-19 13:04                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-19 13:22                       ` Gregory Heytings
2022-09-19 18:41                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-19 13:37                       ` Po Lu
2022-09-19 14:02                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-19 14:14                           ` Po Lu
2022-09-19 14:20                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-19 14:54                               ` Gregory Heytings
2022-09-19 15:51                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-19 16:02                                   ` Gregory Heytings
2022-09-19 16:14                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-19 16:30                                       ` Gregory Heytings
2022-09-19 13:37                       ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-09-19 13:46                       ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2022-09-19 12:33                 ` Gregory Heytings
2022-09-19 10:14             ` Gregory Heytings
2022-09-19 10:17               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-19 11:29                 ` Gregory Heytings
2022-09-19 12:23                   ` Po Lu
2022-09-19 19:51                   ` Gregory Heytings

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