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From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>,
	 Gregory Heytings <gregory@heytings.org>,
	 emacs-devel@gnu.org,  Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: master 3fd2b00a4b 2/2: ; * Makefile.in: Add "make bootstrap configure=default" as a first choice.
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2022 14:33:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878rmfv915.fsf@gnus.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvh713womp.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 19 Sep 2022 08:15:41 -0400")

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

> `make bootstrap` should focus on fixing the bootstrap issues that can be
> present in ELisp files.  It's there so as to avoid the need for
> a complete recompile-from-scratch for those of us who don't have
> machines which can recompile the world under 2min.

The difference in time between a "make bootstrap" and a "make
extraclean; make" is about 0.5% in my tests (1m8.1s vs 1m7.7s).  (The
absolute time difference will vary, of course, but the percentage
shouldn't, I'd imagine.)

But, sure, the name doesn't really make much difference -- it'd just be
nice to have instructions for users that are as clear and easy as
possible.  The current answer -- "make extraclean; make" isn't quite
good enough, especially since that can fail if you've already done, say,
a "bootstrap-clean".

But since we've already advising people to say "make bootstrap", it'd be
less of an adjustment for the few developers that need that extra 0.5%
speed to adjust their typing to "make bootstrap-mostly", in my opinion.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-09-19 12:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2022-09-19  7:46   ` master 3fd2b00a4b 2/2: ; * Makefile.in: Add "make bootstrap configure=default" as a first choice Po Lu
2022-09-19  7:52     ` Gregory Heytings
2022-09-19  7:50   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-19  7:52     ` Po Lu
2022-09-19  7:53     ` Gregory Heytings
2022-09-19  7:59       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-19  8:01         ` Po Lu
2022-09-19  9:29         ` Gregory Heytings
2022-09-19  9:41           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-19 10:13             ` Stefan Kangas
2022-09-19 12:15               ` Stefan Monnier
2022-09-19 12:25                 ` Po Lu
2022-09-19 12:33                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen [this message]
2022-09-19 12:51                   ` Po Lu
2022-09-19 13:02                     ` Stefan Monnier
2022-09-19 13:04                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-19 13:22                       ` Gregory Heytings
2022-09-19 18:41                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-19 13:37                       ` Po Lu
2022-09-19 14:02                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-19 14:14                           ` Po Lu
2022-09-19 14:20                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-19 14:54                               ` Gregory Heytings
2022-09-19 15:51                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-19 16:02                                   ` Gregory Heytings
2022-09-19 16:14                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-19 16:30                                       ` Gregory Heytings
2022-09-19 13:37                       ` Gerd Möllmann
2022-09-19 13:46                       ` Stefan Monnier
2022-09-19 12:33                 ` Gregory Heytings
2022-09-19 10:14             ` Gregory Heytings
2022-09-19 10:17               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-19 11:29                 ` Gregory Heytings
2022-09-19 12:23                   ` Po Lu
2022-09-19 19:51                   ` Gregory Heytings

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