rcirc IRC implementation for Emacs

rcirc IRC implementation for Emacs

[Karl Berry]

An IRC implementation for Emacs has been offered to GNU:
  http://www.nongnu.org/rcirc

It seems reasonable enough, but none of the evaluators are IRC experts,
so we thought someone here might like to take a look and give an
opinion.  Nitpicking the code isn't necessary, just whether it is a
decent package that we should add to Emacs.  It is a single file,
rcirc.el.

The author (Ryan Yeske) looked into other IRC Emacs implementations and
had various reasons for writing a new one.  If anyone here is happily
using another IRC Emacs package, I'd be especially grateful for any
details and/or a comparison.

Please include me in any replies, as I'm not on the list.  Thanks.

karl

Re: rcirc IRC implementation for Emacs

[Nic Ferrier]

karl@freefriends.org (Karl Berry) writes:

> An IRC implementation for Emacs has been offered to GNU:
>   http://www.nongnu.org/rcirc
>
> It seems reasonable enough, but none of the evaluators are IRC experts,
> so we thought someone here might like to take a look and give an
> opinion.  Nitpicking the code isn't necessary, just whether it is a
> decent package that we should add to Emacs.  It is a single file,
> rcirc.el.
>
> The author (Ryan Yeske) looked into other IRC Emacs implementations and
> had various reasons for writing a new one.  If anyone here is happily
> using another IRC Emacs package, I'd be especially grateful for any
> details and/or a comparison.
>
> Please include me in any replies, as I'm not on the list.  Thanks.

I use ERC (an Emacs IRC client) to talk to a free IRC to
MSN/AIM/etc... gateway called Bitlbee.

rcirc is ok... but it's not as slick as rcirc.

But it's ok as a basic irc client. I'd be quite happy if it came with
emacs to be honest. I'd probably stop using ERC.


Nic Ferrier

Re: rcirc IRC implementation for Emacs

[Richard Stallman]

    I use ERC (an Emacs IRC client) to talk to a free IRC to
    MSN/AIM/etc... gateway called Bitlbee.

    rcirc is ok... but it's not as slick as rcirc.

Did you mean to write something else?

Re: rcirc IRC implementation for Emacs

[Nic Ferrier]

Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:

>     I use ERC (an Emacs IRC client) to talk to a free IRC to
>     MSN/AIM/etc... gateway called Bitlbee.
>
>     rcirc is ok... but it's not as slick as rcirc.
>
> Did you mean to write something else?

Well spotted. I meant to say:

     rcirc is ok... but it's not as slick as erc.

However, I have started to use rcirc instead of ERC. After a week I'll
let this thread know how I got on.



Nic

Re: rcirc IRC implementation for Emacs

[Andreas Schwab]

karl@freefriends.org (Karl Berry) writes:

> The author (Ryan Yeske) looked into other IRC Emacs implementations and
> had various reasons for writing a new one.  If anyone here is happily
> using another IRC Emacs package, I'd be especially grateful for any
> details and/or a comparison.

I've been using ERC for some time now, and I'm pretty satisfied with it.
But I don't know how it compares with other clients since I didn't try any
of them yet.

Andreas.

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Re: rcirc IRC implementation for Emacs

[Richard Stallman]

    I've been using ERC for some time now, and I'm pretty satisfied with it.
    But I don't know how it compares with other clients since I didn't try any
    of them yet.

If we want to add an IRC client, and if people like ERC, we could
install that one instead, if the authors will sign papers for it.

Re: rcirc IRC implementation for Emacs

[Edward O'Connor]

> If we want to add an IRC client, and if people like ERC, we could
> install that one instead, if the authors will sign papers for it.

I believe many of the ERC authors have signed papers. Michael Olson
(mwolson@gnu.org) is probably the person most familiar with the current
state of ERC assignments.


Ted

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Re: rcirc IRC implementation for Emacs

[Michael Olson]

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Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:

>     I've been using ERC for some time now, and I'm pretty satisfied
>     with it.  But I don't know how it compares with other clients
>     since I didn't try any of them yet.
>
> If we want to add an IRC client, and if people like ERC, we could
> install that one instead, if the authors will sign papers for it.

Currently most of the authors and contributors of ERC have assigned
changes to the FSF, with a few (~7) exceptions.  I will contact these
people this week in order to speed the process along.  It would be
nice to have ERC included with Emacs.

Another possible barrier would be the lack of a manual.  There is an
online draft at http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/EmacsIRCClient
that could possibly be turned into a full Texinfo manual.  Shall I
begin doing this?

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Re: rcirc IRC implementation for Emacs

[Masatake YAMATO]

> The author (Ryan Yeske) looked into other IRC Emacs implementations and
> had various reasons for writing a new one.  If anyone here is happily
> using another IRC Emacs package, I'd be especially grateful for any
> details and/or a comparison.

How about riece? Its features are:

    * Several IRC servers may be used at the same time.
    * Riece can be dynamically extended by add-on modules.
    * Installation is easy. Riece doesn't depend on other elisp packages.
    * Setup is easy. Automatically save/restore the configuration.
    * Riece uses separate windows to display users, channels, and dialogues. Users can select the window layout.
    * Step by step instruction is included.
    * Mostly compliant with RFC 2812.

    (quoted from http://www.nongnu.org/riece/index.html.en)

In addition, it has a connector to emacs's url package.
So you can do like: 

  (progn (url-mm-url "irc://irc.gnome.org:6667/#glade")
         (url-mm-url "irc://irc.gnome.org:6667/#gtk"))

Re: rcirc IRC implementation for Emacs

[Karl Berry]

    How about riece? Its features are:

Here is what the rcirc author said about riece:

  I recently tried riece, and was put off by the fact that it took over
  the screen to create a 5-window layout.  There was a texinfo manual,
  but the English version was incomplete.

Personally, I think anything that wants to take over the screen is not
the best solution, although certainly there may be other factors.

Thanks for mentioning it, in any case.