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From: Miles Bader <snogglethorpe@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Key-binding clash between gnus and calc
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 04:08:44 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fc339e4a0511151108g213ca36dl@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2wtj9rbnf.fsf@kenny.sha-bang.de>

2005/11/16, Sascha Wilde <wilde@sha-bang.de>:
> This is about a inconsistency in emacs which should be fixed.  calc is
> part of GNU emacs and it uses and documents M-# as a global binding,
> while gnus -- part of gnu emacs, too -- binds it locally.  Of cause I
> can use a custom binding for calc as Jay suggested (and in fact, it's
> what I'm doing for now), but I think the TRTTD would be to change
> either binding.  Global default bindings in emacs should be global.

Both bindings are really old, and are quite commonly used; changing
either one may cause more harm (read: piss off more people) than good.
 It's hardly a tragedy to have to use "M-x calc" when in a gnus
summary buffer.

However, I think if one _must_ be changed, it should be calc, becuase
calc until now has always been an extra add-on to Emacs, and for that
reason probably used by many fewer people than gnus (which has been a
part of emacs for a long time).  Morever, if I recall correctly,
historically the M-# binding for calc has been more of a "suggestion"
than anything else (I seem to remember that the calc installation
instructions told the user to bind it himself).

[Disclaimer:  I always use M-x calc anyway, I don't care much about
M-# for calc...]

-miles
--
Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.

  reply	other threads:[~2005-11-15 19:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-15 16:45 Key-binding clash between gnus and calc Sascha Wilde
2005-11-15 17:02 ` David Kastrup
2005-11-15 18:47   ` Sascha Wilde
2005-11-15 19:08     ` Miles Bader [this message]
2005-11-15 19:33       ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-16 10:48     ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-16 16:21       ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-17 14:07         ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-17 18:32           ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-11-17 21:40             ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-17 21:58               ` David Kastrup
2005-11-19 18:12               ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-11-20 13:29                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-20 18:14                   ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-20 22:52                     ` Stefan Monnier
2005-11-21  1:50                       ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-21  2:50                       ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-21  8:10                     ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-22  5:01                       ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-22 10:28                         ` David Kastrup
2005-11-22 14:41                           ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-22 10:57                         ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-22 16:02                           ` David Kastrup
2005-11-22 17:42                             ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-22 20:26                               ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-11-22 20:41                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-11-22 22:40                                   ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-23  1:37                                     ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-11-23  4:15                                       ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-23  5:14                                     ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-23  6:29                                       ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-23  8:17                                         ` David Kastrup
2005-11-23  9:19                                           ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-23  9:42                                             ` David Kastrup
2005-11-23  9:47                                               ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-23 10:04                                                 ` David Kastrup
2005-11-24  3:57                                             ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-23 11:53                                           ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-24  3:58                                             ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-27  3:27                                               ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-24  8:48                                             ` Sascha Wilde
2005-11-24 12:18                                               ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-11-24 13:07                                                 ` Michael Cadilhac
2005-11-24 14:00                                                   ` Lennart Borgman
2005-11-24 14:45                                                   ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-11-24 17:12                                                     ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-25 15:49                                                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-25 20:22                                               ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-27 20:04                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-28  4:46                                                   ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-24 10:40                                             ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-25 15:49                                               ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-24  3:58                                         ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-22 21:14                                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-22 21:06                               ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-11-22 21:35                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-11-23  6:06                               ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-23  6:24                                 ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-23  9:18                                   ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-23 12:06                                 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-11-22 11:12                         ` Andreas Schwab
2005-11-20 23:47       ` Ryan Yeske
2005-11-20 23:57         ` David Kastrup
2005-11-22  2:20           ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-04 22:19             ` Ryan Yeske
2005-12-05 16:37               ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-21 21:39         ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-21 22:15           ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-15 17:16 ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-15 23:22   ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-16  8:30     ` Sascha Wilde
2005-11-20  1:17       ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-20  9:54         ` Sascha Wilde
2005-11-20 21:42           ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-20 10:22         ` Andreas Schwab
2005-11-17  7:55 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-17  9:19   ` Miles Bader
2005-11-17  9:51     ` Sascha Wilde
2005-11-17 10:01       ` Miles Bader
2005-11-17 14:30       ` Andreas Schwab
2005-11-20  1:18       ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-20  4:16         ` Kevin Greiner
2005-11-21  7:32           ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-18 16:57   ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-18 18:24     ` Reiner Steib
     [not found] <20051121194141.7FA5B1207F1@localhost.localdomain>
2005-11-22 10:57 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-22 14:15   ` Chong Yidong
2005-11-22 17:30     ` Henrik Enberg
2005-11-22 17:54     ` Jay Belanger

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