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From: Jay Belanger <belanger@truman.edu>
Cc: belanger@truman.edu
Subject: Re: Key-binding clash between gnus and calc
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 15:40:44 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r79fuf4z.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1EcoZ9-0004RzC@rattlesnake.com> (Robert J. Chassell's message of "Thu, 17 Nov 2005 18:32:59 +0000 (UTC)")


"Robert J. Chassell" <bob@rattlesnake.com> writes:

>     Is there something that Calc can bind globally to calc-dispatch?
>
> M-+ is currently undefined.  

Undefined anywhere?  M-# is undefined (apart from Calc) in most major
modes; could there be a mode lurking about that uses M-+? The
keybindings conventions part of the manual doesn't say anything about
the M-symbol keys; are they fair game for major modes? 
Gnus uses them a lot, but I haven't seen them used much in other
modes.

> You could press M-+ twice (i.e., M-+ M-+)
> to start calc, the way you do now with M-# or press M-+ and a letter
> for a specific start or for moving data into and out of calc.

This doesn't meet the "more than one key long" condition, but if it
would be acceptable, it would be an excellent solution.  Calc has
various ways of interacting with buffers in different modes, and so I
think it should have a simple entry point with a simple mnemonic.
M-+ fits the bill nicely.

So, the question is, is M-+ acceptable?

> Incidentally, as far as I know, Emacs Calc mode came to use the M-#
> binding before GNUS.  However, because calc was so big, calc was
> kept separate from the standard Emacs distribution for a long time.
> Now, few think that three megabytes additional is `too much'.

I suspect that you can find running shoes with three megabytes of
memory.

Jay

  reply	other threads:[~2005-11-17 21:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-15 16:45 Key-binding clash between gnus and calc Sascha Wilde
2005-11-15 17:02 ` David Kastrup
2005-11-15 18:47   ` Sascha Wilde
2005-11-15 19:08     ` Miles Bader
2005-11-15 19:33       ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-16 10:48     ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-16 16:21       ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-17 14:07         ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-17 18:32           ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-11-17 21:40             ` Jay Belanger [this message]
2005-11-17 21:58               ` David Kastrup
2005-11-19 18:12               ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-11-20 13:29                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-20 18:14                   ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-20 22:52                     ` Stefan Monnier
2005-11-21  1:50                       ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-21  2:50                       ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-21  8:10                     ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-22  5:01                       ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-22 10:28                         ` David Kastrup
2005-11-22 14:41                           ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-22 10:57                         ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-22 16:02                           ` David Kastrup
2005-11-22 17:42                             ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-22 20:26                               ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-11-22 20:41                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-11-22 22:40                                   ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-23  1:37                                     ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-11-23  4:15                                       ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-23  5:14                                     ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-23  6:29                                       ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-23  8:17                                         ` David Kastrup
2005-11-23  9:19                                           ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-23  9:42                                             ` David Kastrup
2005-11-23  9:47                                               ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-23 10:04                                                 ` David Kastrup
2005-11-24  3:57                                             ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-23 11:53                                           ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-24  3:58                                             ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-27  3:27                                               ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-24  8:48                                             ` Sascha Wilde
2005-11-24 12:18                                               ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-11-24 13:07                                                 ` Michael Cadilhac
2005-11-24 14:00                                                   ` Lennart Borgman
2005-11-24 14:45                                                   ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-11-24 17:12                                                     ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-25 15:49                                                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-25 20:22                                               ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-27 20:04                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-28  4:46                                                   ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-24 10:40                                             ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-25 15:49                                               ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-24  3:58                                         ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-22 21:14                                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-22 21:06                               ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-11-22 21:35                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-11-23  6:06                               ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-23  6:24                                 ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-23  9:18                                   ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-23 12:06                                 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-11-22 11:12                         ` Andreas Schwab
2005-11-20 23:47       ` Ryan Yeske
2005-11-20 23:57         ` David Kastrup
2005-11-22  2:20           ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-04 22:19             ` Ryan Yeske
2005-12-05 16:37               ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-21 21:39         ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-21 22:15           ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-15 17:16 ` Jay Belanger
2005-11-15 23:22   ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-16  8:30     ` Sascha Wilde
2005-11-20  1:17       ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-20  9:54         ` Sascha Wilde
2005-11-20 21:42           ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-20 10:22         ` Andreas Schwab
2005-11-17  7:55 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-17  9:19   ` Miles Bader
2005-11-17  9:51     ` Sascha Wilde
2005-11-17 10:01       ` Miles Bader
2005-11-17 14:30       ` Andreas Schwab
2005-11-20  1:18       ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-20  4:16         ` Kevin Greiner
2005-11-21  7:32           ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-18 16:57   ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-18 18:24     ` Reiner Steib
     [not found] <20051121194141.7FA5B1207F1@localhost.localdomain>
2005-11-22 10:57 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-22 14:15   ` Chong Yidong
2005-11-22 17:30     ` Henrik Enberg
2005-11-22 17:54     ` Jay Belanger

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