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From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: philipk@posteo.net, danflscr@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,
	john@yates-sheets.org
Subject: Re: Representation of the Emacs userbase on emacs-devel
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2021 04:32:50 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d1f64c9e-3a38-aaf7-72d8-05a448e27413@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83lf4dyhel.fsf@gnu.org>

On 03.09.2021 15:26, Eli Zaretskii wrote:

> We are, I hope, interested mainly in making Emacs evolve and adapt to
> the changing times and preferences.  I consider the way of introducing
> changes as optional first to be a better way towards that goal,
> including the goal to change the defaults.  And I explained in so many
> words why and how.  How is that side-stepping the issue at hand?

The goals of having Emacs "evolve and adapt" and having it stay the same 
are inherently at odds.

> Show me a project where things are different, where the lead
> developers cannot say "I don't like" (with arguments, which you forget
> to mention, or prefer to dismiss or disregard, but they are still
> there), and that's it.  This is how Free Software projects are being
> developed, at least IME.  Emacs is not an outlier, it's right there in
> the mainstream.

You might as well have said "show me a project where the leaders don't 
make decisions".

So what? We can still question the logic in said decisions.

>>> IME, at least on
>>> my daytime job, source code produced by people these days with popular
>>> IDEs (not Emacs) includes TABs.
>>
>> Does it include tabs in the same fashion as what is produced by Emacs?
>> Which actually mixes tabs and spaces.
> 
> Why does it matter?  If we'd make the default use only TABs, would you
> agree then?

You would not be able to -- it would be just as breaking, and it would 
require even more changes, including various major modes. Like 
synchronizing tab-width and the *-indent-level variables.

But it would make more sense, at least.

It does matter if you are at all interested in the current popular 
practices around tabs vs spaces (meaning being interested in what people 
ultimately want: Emacs users generally don't get to choose the current 
project style at the workplace).

When we look at the polls about indentation style preference (where 
"tabs" can be as high as ~30% for certain languages), they don't prefer 
the kind of tab-based indentation that Emacs does. Which really means we 
only satisfy some tiny fraction of the users OOTB in any language.



  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-04  1:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 548+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-26 16:20 Gitlab Migration Daniel Fleischer
2021-08-26 16:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-26 16:40   ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-08-26 16:56     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-26 19:27       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-08-26 19:33         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-27 22:50         ` Yuchen Pei
2021-08-28  4:57           ` Werner LEMBERG
2021-08-28  7:44             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-28  7:57               ` tomas
2021-08-28  8:42                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-28  8:47                   ` tomas
2021-08-26 19:38       ` dick
2021-08-26 19:51         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-27  6:26         ` tomas
2021-08-27 12:11           ` dick
2021-08-27 12:20             ` tomas
2021-08-27 12:41             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-02 11:06         ` Alexander Adolf
2021-09-02 11:13           ` Alexander Adolf
2021-09-02 12:12           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-26 16:38 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-08-26 17:24 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-08-26 17:52   ` Theodor Thornhill
2021-08-26 18:21     ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-08-26 17:59   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-08-26 18:42     ` Jim Porter
2021-08-26 19:09       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-26 19:31     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-08-26 19:41       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-26 20:12         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-08-26 20:51           ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-26 21:13             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-08-26 22:05               ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-26 21:41             ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-08-26 21:52               ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-30 16:30                 ` João Távora
2021-08-30 16:51                   ` Drew Adams
2021-08-30 17:59                     ` João Távora
2021-08-30 19:18                   ` André A. Gomes
2021-08-27  6:21               ` tomas
2021-08-27  7:23                 ` Debbugs state (was: [External] : Re: Gitlab Migration) Michael Albinus
2021-08-27  7:40                   ` tomas
2021-08-27 10:24                     ` Debbugs state Michael Albinus
2021-08-27 10:51                       ` tomas
2021-08-30 11:42                 ` gebbugs.gnu.org search (was Re: Gitlab Migration) Maxim Nikulin
2021-08-30 15:30                   ` debbugs.gnu.org search [was gebbugs.gnu.org search] Glenn Morris
2021-08-31 11:56                     ` debbugs.gnu.org search Maxim Nikulin
2021-08-27  6:29               ` [External] : Re: Gitlab Migration Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-27  7:25                 ` Drew Adams
2021-08-27  6:09             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-28  1:51               ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-28  6:45                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-28  8:53                   ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-27  0:40       ` Po Lu
2021-08-27  1:31         ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-27 11:33           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-08-28  5:05             ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-29  1:27             ` Po Lu
2021-08-27  1:01       ` Tim Cross
2021-08-27  7:07         ` Daniel Fleischer
2021-08-27  7:34           ` Tim Cross
2021-08-27  8:25             ` tomas
2021-08-27  9:47               ` Tim Cross
2021-08-27 10:44                 ` tomas
2021-08-27 11:54                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-27 16:59                 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-08-27 11:49               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-27 12:03                 ` tomas
2021-08-28  2:04                   ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-27 16:59               ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-08-27 17:08                 ` tomas
2021-08-29  3:01                   ` Richard Stallman
2021-08-28  2:01               ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-28  1:39             ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-28  2:38               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-28  2:59                 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-28  6:57                 ` tomas
2021-08-28  7:41                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-28  7:53                     ` tomas
2021-08-28  8:39                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-28  8:43                         ` tomas
2021-08-29  3:03                   ` Richard Stallman
2021-08-29 12:55                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-30  3:01                       ` rmail threading Richard Stallman
2021-08-30 12:07                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-31  3:09                           ` Richard Stallman
2021-08-31 12:47                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-02  3:37                               ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-02  6:43                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-04  3:39                                   ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-04  7:16                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-06  3:09                                       ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-06  3:09                                       ` Richard Stallman
2021-08-28  3:21               ` Gitlab Migration Tim Cross
2021-08-28  5:02                 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-28  7:53                   ` Tim Cross
2021-08-28  8:52                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-28  9:10                       ` tomas
2021-08-28  9:54                         ` Tim Cross
2021-08-28  9:33                     ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-28 16:11                     ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-08-29  0:54                       ` Tim Cross
2021-08-29  3:18                         ` Drew Adams
2021-08-30  2:59                           ` Richard Stallman
2021-08-28  6:26               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-01 17:15         ` Maxim Nikulin
2021-08-26 18:01   ` john muhl
2021-08-26 19:08     ` Greg Farough
2021-08-26 19:21       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-27 13:47     ` Daniel Martín
2021-08-27 14:57       ` Tassilo Horn
2021-08-27 15:35         ` Daniel Martín
2021-08-26 18:36   ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2021-08-26 19:04     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-26 19:26       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-08-26 21:52         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-02 15:25           ` Daniel Brooks
2021-08-26 19:37       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-08-26 19:44         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-26 20:05           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-02 15:30           ` Daniel Brooks
2021-09-02 16:03             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-02 16:19               ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-09-02 16:47                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-02 17:01                   ` Yuri Khan
2021-09-02 17:09                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-02 17:24                       ` Yuri Khan
2021-09-02 17:33                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-02 17:36                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-09-02 17:40                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-02 18:26               ` Daniel Brooks
2021-08-26 21:55         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-27  6:00         ` tomas
2021-08-27  7:36           ` Structured debbugs list per project (was: Gitlab Migration) Michael Albinus
2021-08-27  7:38             ` tomas
2021-08-28  1:52               ` Structured debbugs list per project Arthur Miller
2021-08-28 15:43               ` Michael Albinus
2021-09-09 14:07                 ` Michael Albinus
2021-09-11 20:42                   ` Stephen Leake
2021-09-12 16:10                     ` Michael Albinus
2021-08-27 11:25           ` Gitlab Migration Dmitry Gutov
2021-08-26 20:09       ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2021-08-27  5:51         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-27  6:04           ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2021-08-27  6:10           ` Tim Cross
2021-08-27  8:26             ` Andreas Schwab
2021-08-27 11:28             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-27  0:38       ` Tim Cross
2021-08-27  1:00         ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2021-08-26 21:24     ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-26 23:52   ` Tim Cross
2021-08-28  2:59     ` Richard Stallman
2021-08-28  4:50       ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-29  3:03         ` Richard Stallman
2021-08-27  7:00   ` Daniel Fleischer
2021-08-27  7:16     ` Tim Cross
2021-08-27 11:30     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-27 14:33       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-27 14:46         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-08-27 14:50           ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-08-27 15:14           ` André A. Gomes
2021-08-27 15:29           ` Theodor Thornhill
2021-08-27 19:08             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-27 19:38               ` Theodor Thornhill
2021-08-27 20:07                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-27 20:58                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-08-27 21:06                     ` Sean Whitton
2021-08-28  8:00                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-28 15:20                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-08-28 16:04                         ` Drew DeVault
2021-08-28 18:08                           ` Daniel Martín
2021-08-28 18:13                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-28 18:19                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-08-28 18:32                             ` Drew DeVault
2021-08-29  1:56                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-08-29  6:55                             ` Drew DeVault
2021-08-29  7:38                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-29  7:42                                 ` Drew DeVault
2021-08-29  8:21                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-29  8:23                                     ` Drew DeVault
2021-08-29  8:30                                       ` Theodor Thornhill
2021-08-29  8:33                                         ` Drew DeVault
2021-08-29  8:39                                           ` Theodor Thornhill
2021-08-29 11:33                                         ` theo
2021-08-29 19:03                                           ` Tassilo Horn
2021-08-29 19:50                                             ` Theodor Thornhill
2021-08-29  8:45                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-29  9:09                                       ` João Távora
2021-08-29  9:53                                         ` João Távora
2021-08-29 11:03                                           ` Merges from release branch (was: Gitlab Migration) Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-29 11:14                                             ` Merges from release branch David Engster
2021-08-29 13:03                                               ` João Távora
2021-08-29 12:29                                             ` João Távora
2021-08-29 13:18                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-29 14:48                                                 ` João Távora
2021-08-29 14:59                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-29 15:21                                                     ` João Távora
2021-08-29 15:55                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-29 15:58                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-29  8:36                                     ` Gitlab Migration David Engster
2021-08-29  8:37                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-29 22:27                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-08-30  6:31                                     ` Drew DeVault
2021-08-30 12:32                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-08-29 23:17                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-08-30  6:29                                 ` Drew DeVault
2021-08-30 12:47                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-08-30 12:49                                     ` Drew DeVault
2021-08-30 13:00                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-08-30 13:03                                         ` Drew DeVault
2021-08-30 13:06                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-08-29  7:42                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-08-29  8:22                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-29 21:13                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-08-27 21:04                   ` Theodor Thornhill
2021-08-28  7:55                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-28  8:05                       ` Theodor Thornhill
2021-08-28 10:16                         ` Drew DeVault
2021-08-28 12:09                           ` Daniel Fleischer
2021-08-28 12:29                             ` Drew DeVault
2021-08-28 13:26                             ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2021-08-28 10:49                         ` Alan Third
2021-08-28 11:42                           ` Theodor Thornhill
2021-08-28 11:47                             ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2021-08-28 11:56                               ` Theodor Thornhill
2021-08-28 12:09                                 ` Drew DeVault
2021-08-28 15:24                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-08-28 15:35                       ` Theodor Thornhill
2021-08-28 15:45                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-08-27 20:45               ` GitLab feature request compared with SourceHut (was: Re: Gitlab Migration) Sean Whitton
2021-08-28  7:18                 ` Tassilo Horn
2021-08-28 15:09                   ` GitLab feature request compared with SourceHut Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-08-28 15:32                     ` Ben Mezger
2021-08-28 15:46                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-08-28 18:37                       ` Tassilo Horn
2021-08-28 20:15                         ` Ben Mezger
2021-08-28 22:20                           ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2021-08-29  3:03                           ` Richard Stallman
2021-08-29  7:10                             ` Drew DeVault
2021-08-29 18:30                               ` Ben Mezger
2021-08-30  2:59                                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-08-27 21:09         ` Gitlab Migration Dmitry Gutov
2021-08-27 21:17           ` Theodor Thornhill
2021-08-27 21:35             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-08-27 21:44               ` Theodor Thornhill
2021-08-27 22:42                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-08-28  6:01             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-28  6:26               ` Theodor Thornhill
2021-08-28  7:30                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-28  7:56                   ` Theodor Thornhill
2021-08-28  8:41                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-28  9:00                       ` Theodor Thornhill
2021-08-28  9:24                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-28  9:51                           ` Theodor Thornhill
2021-08-28 10:18                   ` Daniel Fleischer
2021-08-28 11:43                     ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-08-28 11:45                       ` Theodor Thornhill
2021-08-28 12:25                         ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-08-28 13:49                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-08-28 14:11                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-08-28  6:00           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-29  2:27             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-08-30  2:58               ` Richard Stallman
2021-08-30 12:20                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-08-30 12:48                   ` Daniel Fleischer
2021-08-30 12:55                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-03  4:57                       ` Elias Mårtenson
2021-09-03  5:26                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-09-03  6:40                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-03  7:26                           ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-09-03 10:26                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-03 11:11                               ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-09-03 11:31                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-03 11:41                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-03 12:12                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-03 12:27                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-03 12:32                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-03 12:45                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-03 13:26                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-03 13:44                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-03 14:15                                               ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-09-03 15:06                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-03 15:11                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-03 15:22                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-04  6:50                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-03 16:08                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-03 19:13                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-03 23:03                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-06  3:05                                               ` Emacs default bindings Richard Stallman
2021-09-03 14:25                                     ` Gitlab Migration Daniel Fleischer
2021-09-03 19:06                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-04  8:02                                     ` Daniel Fleischer
2021-09-04  8:18                                       ` Variables for easy customization (was: Gitlab Migration) Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-04 13:41                                         ` Variables for easy customization Stefan Monnier
2021-09-04 13:48                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-06  3:10                                             ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-06  6:39                                               ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-09-07  3:18                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-04 14:24                                           ` Daniel Fleischer
2021-09-04  9:15                                       ` Variables for easy customization (was: Gitlab Migration) Alan Third
2021-09-04 10:59                                       ` Gitlab Migration Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-04 11:37                                         ` Daniel Fleischer
2021-09-04 13:50                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-04 14:10                                             ` Daniel Fleischer
2021-09-04 14:19                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-04 14:22                                                 ` Daniel Fleischer
2021-09-04 14:45                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-04 14:49                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-04 15:44                                               ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-04 14:33                                             ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-09-04 18:07                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-04 13:46                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-04 18:16                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-04 18:21                                           ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-09-04 12:41                                       ` João Távora
2021-09-04 16:32                                       ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-09-04 18:39                                         ` Daniel Fleischer
2021-09-04 19:14                                           ` Drew Adams
2021-09-04 19:51                                             ` Daniel Fleischer
2021-09-04 20:18                                               ` Tim Cross
2021-09-04 20:41                                                 ` Daniel Fleischer
2021-09-06  3:06                                     ` Emacs default bindings Richard Stallman
2021-09-06 12:02                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-08  3:22                                         ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-08  6:39                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-08 12:26                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-08 13:21                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-08 13:37                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-08 13:48                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-08 14:28                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-09 13:52                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-10  0:02                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-08 14:53                                                 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-08 15:04                                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-09-08 15:06                                                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-09-08 16:08                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-08 17:34                                                     ` João Távora
2021-09-09  1:01                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-27 23:17                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-27 23:40                                         ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-27 23:49                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-28  0:11                                             ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-28  0:23                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-28  0:27                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-28  1:09                                                   ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-28  0:54                                                 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-28 11:16                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-30  6:04                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-28  1:21                                             ` Jim Porter
2021-09-28  6:58                                           ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-09-28  7:10                                             ` Yuri Khan
2021-09-28  7:22                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-28 12:56                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-28 13:01                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-28 11:37                                             ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-29  0:49                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-28  7:00                                         ` Enabling show-paren-mode by default (Was Re: Emacs default bindings) Bodertz
2021-09-29 17:07                                         ` Emacs default bindings Eric Abrahamsen
2021-09-29 19:34                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-29 20:02                                             ` Eric Abrahamsen
2021-09-05  7:47                                   ` Gitlab Migration Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-05  8:03                                     ` Daniel Fleischer
2021-09-05 18:38                                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-09-05 19:15                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-06  3:05                               ` Emacs default bindings Richard Stallman
2021-09-06 12:04                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-03 10:20                         ` Gitlab Migration Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-06  3:05                           ` like a module system Richard Stallman
2021-09-03 10:45                         ` Gitlab Migration Stefan Kangas
2021-09-05  3:44                           ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-05  3:44                           ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-07  2:55                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-07  4:56                               ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-07  5:01                                 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-07  5:38                                   ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-07  8:03                                     ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-09-07 12:46                                       ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-07  7:26                                 ` Yuri Khan
2021-09-07  8:04                                   ` tomas
2021-09-07 12:41                                   ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-07 10:55                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-07 12:49                                   ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-07 12:55                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-07 13:24                                       ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-09  3:07                               ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-10  3:09                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-12  1:47                                   ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-12  2:41                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-08-31  3:09                   ` Richard Stallman
2021-08-31 11:43                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-08-31 16:03                       ` João Távora
2021-08-31 16:15                         ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2021-08-31 16:39                           ` João Távora
2021-08-31 18:53                         ` André A. Gomes
2021-09-04 23:45                           ` Yuchen Pei
2021-09-05  1:26                             ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-08-31 19:33                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-08-31 22:25                           ` João Távora
2021-09-03  3:10                           ` Richard Stallman
2021-08-31 16:21                       ` John Yates
2021-08-31 16:37                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-31 19:17                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-08-31 19:37                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-01 11:35                               ` John Yates
2021-09-01 12:36                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-02  3:38                                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-02 19:02                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-02 20:35                                     ` Representation of the Emacs userbase on emacs-devel Philip Kaludercic
2021-09-02 22:39                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-03  6:28                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-03 10:34                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-03 11:19                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-03 12:11                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-03 12:26                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-04  1:32                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2021-09-04  4:24                                                     ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-04  6:25                                                     ` tomas
2021-09-04  6:26                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-05  3:44                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-04  5:34                                           ` Yuan Fu
2021-09-05  4:40                                             ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-05  5:22                                               ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-05  6:37                                                 ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-05  7:13                                                   ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-05  7:27                                                     ` Daniel Fleischer
2021-09-05  8:08                                                     ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-05  9:06                                                       ` Tim Cross
2021-09-07  3:14                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-05 19:16                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-05 19:45                                                         ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-05 20:20                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-06  5:04                                                             ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-06 12:09                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-06 13:52                                                                 ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-06 14:05                                                                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-09-06 14:54                                                                     ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-06 14:11                                                                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-09-06 14:17                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-06 14:46                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-06 14:52                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-06 15:29                                                                         ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-09-06 14:48                                                                     ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-06 15:19                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-06 14:23                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-07  3:17                                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-07  4:44                                                                     ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-07  5:17                                                                       ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-07  6:20                                                                       ` tomas
2021-09-07 12:37                                                                         ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-07 15:26                                                                         ` Yuri Khan
2021-09-09  3:07                                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-09  3:07                                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-07 11:05                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-07 16:35                                                                         ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-09  3:07                                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-07  5:10                                                                     ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-08  3:28                                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-08  9:52                                                                         ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-06  9:24                                               ` Hugo Thunnissen
2021-09-06 11:26                                                 ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-05  3:39                                         ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-07  2:07                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-08  3:27                                             ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-08 11:07                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-09  3:10                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-09 14:14                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-12  1:47                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-12  1:52                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-27 22:48                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-02 22:58                                       ` Qiantan Hong
2021-09-03  6:06                                     ` Gitlab Migration Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-03  6:12                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-03  6:44                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-03 10:16                                           ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-03  7:28                                         ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-09-03  7:31                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-03  8:35                                             ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-09-03 10:59                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-03 11:06                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-03 11:16                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-03 12:11                                               ` João Távora
2021-09-03 12:14                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-03 12:33                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-03 13:08                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-03 15:26                                                     ` João Távora
2021-09-06  3:05                                                     ` Emacs default bindings Richard Stallman
2021-09-03 12:49                                                   ` Gitlab Migration João Távora
2021-09-03 12:19                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-03 12:30                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-03 15:49                                                   ` João Távora
2021-09-03 11:26                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-03 12:08                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-03 12:17                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-06  3:06                                           ` Emacs default bindings Richard Stallman
2021-09-06  3:06                                           ` indent-tabs-mode default [was: Representation of the Emacs userbase on emacs-devel] Richard Stallman
2021-09-06 12:23                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-06 23:32                                               ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-09-06 23:38                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-04 16:24                                         ` Gitlab Migration Christian Vanderwall
2021-09-04 16:58                                           ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-05  3:41                                     ` Richard Stallman
2021-08-31 22:24                             ` John Yates
2021-09-03  3:09                         ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-02  3:37                       ` Richard Stallman
2021-08-27 18:19       ` João Távora
2021-08-28  2:07         ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-28  2:15           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-08-29  3:00             ` Richard Stallman
2021-08-29 18:40               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-08-29  3:01         ` Richard Stallman
2021-08-27 18:02   ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-08-28  2:59   ` Richard Stallman
2021-08-28  6:58     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-29  3:03       ` Richard Stallman
2021-08-26 18:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-26 19:13   ` john muhl
2021-08-27  6:50     ` Daniel Fleischer
2021-08-27 11:20       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-27 23:13       ` Yuchen Pei
2021-08-28  3:03   ` Richard Stallman
2021-08-27  0:37 ` Po Lu
2021-08-27 13:35 ` Daniel Martín
2021-08-27 13:58   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-27 14:17     ` Daniel Martín
2021-08-28  8:11       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-28 13:04         ` SourceHut for Emacs (was: Gitlab Migration) Stefan Monnier
2021-08-30 17:59           ` Sean Whitton
2021-08-30 20:17           ` Yuan Fu
2021-08-31 12:03             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-01 22:40               ` Yuan Fu
2021-09-02  6:32                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-28 14:07         ` Gitlab Migration Daniel Martín
2021-08-27 21:07   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-28  2:31     ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-28 12:23       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-28  5:57     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-28  9:25       ` Alan Third
2021-08-28  9:40         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-28 21:42         ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-08-28 22:03           ` Alan Third
2021-08-30 15:26     ` debbugs [was Re: Gitlab Migration] Glenn Morris
2021-08-30 16:09       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-28  2:59 ` Gitlab Migration Richard Stallman
2021-08-28  4:51   ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-28  7:03   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-28  8:12     ` Yuchen Pei
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