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From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Cc: Ralf Angeli <angeli@iwi.uni-sb.de>,
	bug-cc-mode@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [sigra@home.se: C++-mode: Syntax highlighting: wrong color for function identifier depending on the kind of whitespace that follows]
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 11:10:48 +0000 (GMT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.1060216100910.392D-100000@acm.acm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43F35997.7080007@gmx.at>

Hi, Martin!

On Wed, 15 Feb 2006, martin rudalics wrote:

> > That's how I understand it.  The region to be fontified will get
> > extended backwards to the starting tag regardless of this point being
> > visible in the window or not.  If it will be fontified right away or
> > marked to be fontified by jit-lock depends upon either
> > `jit-lock-after-change' or `font-lock-after-change-function' being
> > present in `after-change-functions'.

>Presumably the "region to be fontified gets extended" by resetting its
>fontified text-property to nil.  `jit-lock-after-change' should be able
>to do this if you provide the correct start and end values.  But keep in
>mind that with jit-lock redisplay immediately triggers refontification
>of displayed text whose fontified text-property has been reset to nil.
>This refontification won't recognize any "starting tag" preceding
>window-start unless you explicitly tell it to go there, for example, by
>using a multiline property.  If you decide on the `font-lock-multiline'
>property, every time you insert or delete a character nearby, redisplay
>has to refontify the entire contiguous area covered by the property.

There's a fundamental mismatch between Font Lock's implementation and
reality: Font Lock assumes that, with the exception of comments and
strings, the fontification of a region is dependent only on text near the
region.  This works pretty well for programming languages, but badly for
mark-up languages.

Conceptually, Emacs partitions the problem into a low-intensity global
task (locating comments and strings), for which it has the fast syntax
routines, and a high-intensity local task (hairy syntax analysis near
point.)  It is worth noting that the syntax routines support 2-character
delimiters (like "/*"), if only by kludge.

I am convinced that, in the long term, we need an analogous, fast, global
mechanism for for locating and characterizing regions bounded by
arbitrary delimiters - in this case "<<" and ">>", but could just as well
be Texinfo's "{" and "}" or Lex's and Yacc's "%{", "%}" and "%%" or
"literate programing"'s boundaries between narrative text and executable
code, or "here documents" within a shell script.

Until we have this, I think we'll be entangling ourselves in an ever
stickier web of ad-hoc workarounds.

-- 
Alan.




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  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-02-16 11:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <E1D94Wo-0006AP-W2@fencepost.gnu.org>
2005-03-09 21:18 ` [sigra@home.se: C++-mode: Syntax highlighting: wrong color for function identifier depending on the kind of whitespace that follows] Alan Mackenzie
2005-03-09 22:35   ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-10  8:00     ` Alan Mackenzie
2005-03-10 13:01       ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-10 15:16         ` D. R. E. Moonfire
2005-03-10 17:01           ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-10 20:09         ` Alan Mackenzie
2005-03-10 20:53           ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-10 22:42             ` Alan Mackenzie
2005-03-11 20:28           ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-11  1:48       ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-11 19:43         ` Alan Mackenzie
2005-03-10 22:13     ` Martin Stjernholm
2005-03-10 22:59       ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-11 20:27         ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-13 16:19         ` Martin Stjernholm
2005-03-14  1:07           ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-19 22:23             ` Martin Stjernholm
2005-03-19 22:30               ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-11  1:47     ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-11  4:47       ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-12  0:56         ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-12  1:00           ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-13 15:30             ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-11  1:46   ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-11  1:46   ` Richard Stallman
2006-02-12 13:06     ` Ralf Angeli
2006-02-12 16:20       ` Stefan Monnier
2006-02-12 22:58         ` Ralf Angeli
2006-02-13 22:10           ` Stefan Monnier
2006-02-14  7:53             ` martin rudalics
2006-02-14 19:00               ` Stefan Monnier
2006-02-14 20:13                 ` martin rudalics
2006-02-14 21:08                   ` Stefan Monnier
2006-02-15 10:17                     ` martin rudalics
2006-02-15 10:38                       ` Ralf Angeli
2006-02-15 14:20                         ` martin rudalics
2006-02-15 14:56                           ` Ralf Angeli
2006-02-15 16:40                             ` martin rudalics
2006-02-15 17:03                               ` Ralf Angeli
2006-02-16 11:10                               ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2006-02-16 11:54                                 ` Vivek Dasmohapatra
2006-02-16 15:21                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-02-16 23:28                                   ` David Kastrup
2006-02-17 14:19                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2006-02-16 17:21                                 ` martin rudalics
2006-02-15 20:44                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-02-16  0:40                       ` Stefan Monnier
2006-02-15 20:56                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-02-16  8:56                     ` martin rudalics
2006-02-15 20:13               ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-02-16  9:02                 ` martin rudalics
2006-02-14  8:18             ` Werner LEMBERG
2006-02-14  8:49             ` Ralf Angeli
2006-02-14 19:05               ` Stefan Monnier
2006-02-14 21:12                 ` Ralf Angeli
2006-02-15 13:35                   ` Stefan Monnier
2006-02-15 14:05                     ` Ralf Angeli
2006-02-15 14:21                       ` Ralf Angeli
2006-02-15 20:33             ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-02-15 21:13               ` Stefan Monnier
2006-02-15 21:59                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-02-16 14:59                 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-02-16 16:37                   ` Stefan Monnier
2006-02-15 19:07         ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-02-15 21:42           ` Ralf Angeli
2006-02-16 11:20             ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-02-16 11:54               ` Ralf Angeli
2006-02-16 15:12                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-02-17  7:56                   ` martin rudalics
2006-02-17 11:32                     ` Ralf Angeli
2006-02-17 13:22                       ` martin rudalics
2006-02-17 13:33                         ` Ralf Angeli
2006-02-16 16:32                 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-02-16  0:38           ` Stefan Monnier
2006-02-16  9:51             ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-02-16 16:27               ` Stefan Monnier
2006-02-17  7:48                 ` martin rudalics
2006-02-17 14:36                   ` Stefan Monnier
2006-02-16 18:46               ` martin rudalics
2006-02-16  9:09           ` martin rudalics
2006-02-13  4:40       ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-02-13  5:25         ` Stefan Monnier
2006-02-14  0:39           ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-03-14 19:23         ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-03-14 22:11           ` Stefan Monnier
2006-03-15  8:52             ` martin rudalics
2006-03-15  9:02             ` Ralf Angeli
2006-03-15 10:22               ` Stefan Monnier
2006-03-15 11:40             ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-03-15 16:16               ` Stefan Monnier
2006-03-15 20:20           ` Richard Stallman
2006-03-20  8:16           ` font-lock-extend-region (was: [sigra@home.se: C++-mode: Syntax highlighting: wrong color for function identifier depending on the kind of whitespace that follows]) Stefan Monnier
2006-03-20 13:01             ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-03-20 17:18               ` font-lock-extend-region Stefan Monnier
2006-03-21 16:05                 ` font-lock-extend-region Alan Mackenzie
2006-03-21 21:32                   ` font-lock-extend-region Stefan Monnier
2006-03-23 15:23                     ` font-lock-extend-region Alan Mackenzie
2006-03-23 16:18                       ` font-lock-extend-region Stefan Monnier
2006-02-15 19:34       ` [sigra@home.se: C++-mode: Syntax highlighting: wrong color for function identifier depending on the kind of whitespace that follows] Alan Mackenzie
2006-02-16  9:07         ` Ralf Angeli
2006-02-16  9:07         ` martin rudalics

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