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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, bug-cc-mode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [sigra@home.se: C++-mode: Syntax highlighting: wrong color for function identifier depending on the kind of whitespace that follows]
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 20:46:45 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1D9ZEj-0003x6-B1@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.96.1050309193630.414A-100000@acm.acm> (message from Alan Mackenzie on Wed, 9 Mar 2005 21:18:40 +0000 (GMT))

    Hmmm.  The advice facility exists within Emacs, and it is difficult to
    see what it could be used on, aside from another part of Emacs.  After
    all, one does not need to advise one's own code, having full control over
    the source.

It is meant for users to use in their Lisp code.  We can't anticipate
all of what they need.  But when something is part of Emacs, it should
not use advice.  When we install code in Emacs, if it advises some
other part of Emacs, then we should add a hook for it to use instead
of the advice.

The reason the hook is better is that it is visible in the source.  If
you are debugging a call to the function foo, there is nothing to show
you it has advice.  That can be a real pain in debugging.  How much
time would you waste before it occurred to you to wonder if the
code that's running really matches the source?

If foo has a hook, at least you'll see `run-hooks' in the code for
foo, so you will ask yourself "What's in that hook?"


I just had an idea that could perhaps eliminate this problem.  Emacs
Lisp mode could have a feature to put an overlay on the defun for a
function that has advice.  The overlay could have `after-text' like "
[Function has advice]".  If you see

(defun foo [Function has advice] (x y) 

you would not be confused by the advice.  The overlay could also perhaps
be a button that you could use to view the advice.

I will add this to TODO.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-03-11  1:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <E1D94Wo-0006AP-W2@fencepost.gnu.org>
2005-03-09 21:18 ` [sigra@home.se: C++-mode: Syntax highlighting: wrong color for function identifier depending on the kind of whitespace that follows] Alan Mackenzie
2005-03-09 22:35   ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-10  8:00     ` Alan Mackenzie
2005-03-10 13:01       ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-10 15:16         ` D. R. E. Moonfire
2005-03-10 17:01           ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-10 20:09         ` Alan Mackenzie
2005-03-10 20:53           ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-10 22:42             ` Alan Mackenzie
2005-03-11 20:28           ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-11  1:48       ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-11 19:43         ` Alan Mackenzie
2005-03-10 22:13     ` Martin Stjernholm
2005-03-10 22:59       ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-11 20:27         ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-13 16:19         ` Martin Stjernholm
2005-03-14  1:07           ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-19 22:23             ` Martin Stjernholm
2005-03-19 22:30               ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-11  1:47     ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-11  4:47       ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-12  0:56         ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-12  1:00           ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-13 15:30             ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-11  1:46   ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2005-03-11  1:46   ` Richard Stallman
2006-02-12 13:06     ` Ralf Angeli
2006-02-12 16:20       ` Stefan Monnier
2006-02-12 22:58         ` Ralf Angeli
2006-02-13 22:10           ` Stefan Monnier
2006-02-14  7:53             ` martin rudalics
2006-02-14 19:00               ` Stefan Monnier
2006-02-14 20:13                 ` martin rudalics
2006-02-14 21:08                   ` Stefan Monnier
2006-02-15 10:17                     ` martin rudalics
2006-02-15 10:38                       ` Ralf Angeli
2006-02-15 14:20                         ` martin rudalics
2006-02-15 14:56                           ` Ralf Angeli
2006-02-15 16:40                             ` martin rudalics
2006-02-15 17:03                               ` Ralf Angeli
2006-02-16 11:10                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-02-16 11:54                                 ` Vivek Dasmohapatra
2006-02-16 15:21                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-02-16 23:28                                   ` David Kastrup
2006-02-17 14:19                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2006-02-16 17:21                                 ` martin rudalics
2006-02-15 20:44                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-02-16  0:40                       ` Stefan Monnier
2006-02-15 20:56                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-02-16  8:56                     ` martin rudalics
2006-02-15 20:13               ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-02-16  9:02                 ` martin rudalics
2006-02-14  8:18             ` Werner LEMBERG
2006-02-14  8:49             ` Ralf Angeli
2006-02-14 19:05               ` Stefan Monnier
2006-02-14 21:12                 ` Ralf Angeli
2006-02-15 13:35                   ` Stefan Monnier
2006-02-15 14:05                     ` Ralf Angeli
2006-02-15 14:21                       ` Ralf Angeli
2006-02-15 20:33             ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-02-15 21:13               ` Stefan Monnier
2006-02-15 21:59                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-02-16 14:59                 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-02-16 16:37                   ` Stefan Monnier
2006-02-15 19:07         ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-02-15 21:42           ` Ralf Angeli
2006-02-16 11:20             ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-02-16 11:54               ` Ralf Angeli
2006-02-16 15:12                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-02-17  7:56                   ` martin rudalics
2006-02-17 11:32                     ` Ralf Angeli
2006-02-17 13:22                       ` martin rudalics
2006-02-17 13:33                         ` Ralf Angeli
2006-02-16 16:32                 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-02-16  0:38           ` Stefan Monnier
2006-02-16  9:51             ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-02-16 16:27               ` Stefan Monnier
2006-02-17  7:48                 ` martin rudalics
2006-02-17 14:36                   ` Stefan Monnier
2006-02-16 18:46               ` martin rudalics
2006-02-16  9:09           ` martin rudalics
2006-02-13  4:40       ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-02-13  5:25         ` Stefan Monnier
2006-02-14  0:39           ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-03-14 19:23         ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-03-14 22:11           ` Stefan Monnier
2006-03-15  8:52             ` martin rudalics
2006-03-15  9:02             ` Ralf Angeli
2006-03-15 10:22               ` Stefan Monnier
2006-03-15 11:40             ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-03-15 16:16               ` Stefan Monnier
2006-03-15 20:20           ` Richard Stallman
2006-03-20  8:16           ` font-lock-extend-region (was: [sigra@home.se: C++-mode: Syntax highlighting: wrong color for function identifier depending on the kind of whitespace that follows]) Stefan Monnier
2006-03-20 13:01             ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-03-20 17:18               ` font-lock-extend-region Stefan Monnier
2006-03-21 16:05                 ` font-lock-extend-region Alan Mackenzie
2006-03-21 21:32                   ` font-lock-extend-region Stefan Monnier
2006-03-23 15:23                     ` font-lock-extend-region Alan Mackenzie
2006-03-23 16:18                       ` font-lock-extend-region Stefan Monnier
2006-02-15 19:34       ` [sigra@home.se: C++-mode: Syntax highlighting: wrong color for function identifier depending on the kind of whitespace that follows] Alan Mackenzie
2006-02-16  9:07         ` Ralf Angeli
2006-02-16  9:07         ` martin rudalics

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