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From: Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>
Cc: angeli@iwi.uni-sb.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: windows-XXXX and cpXXXX
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 20:50:07 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1ExNRX-0006HT-00@etlken> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ulkxkse69.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Fri, 13 Jan 2006 10:52:14 +0200)

In article <ulkxkse69.fsf@gnu.org>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

> Why would non-DOS users need cp1252? why cannot they use windows-1252,
> which is the official IANA name of that encoding?

> The fact that people get confused by what the Emacs manual says about
> this (which I believe is what led us to this discussion) can be taken
> care of by fixing the manual.  There's no need to modify code for that.

> In short, cp1252 is something we invented in codepage.el.  So we might
> as well retire those cpXXX symbols for good, on all platforms (except
> DOS, which must use codepage.el).  That is my suggestion: let's remove
> cpXXX and cpXXXX aliases from code-pages.el, and let's start educating
> users to use windows-XXXX instead.

At least cpXXX can't be replaced by windows-XXX.  Do you
suggest to use the official name ibmXXX instead?

But, I've just checked the name cp1252 on google and found this:

iconv supports cpXXXX from fairly long ago.  CPXXXX are used
also in this page:
  <http://www.unicode.org/Public/MAPPINGS/VENDORS/MICSFT/WINDOWS/>
It seems that Java (JVM) also support the name cp1252.

So, I think the name cpXXXXs have already acquired
citizenship, and thus it is a lack of sophistication not to
support the name cpXXXX.

Of course, I agree that it is the right thing to somehow
merge codepage.el and code-pages.el, and provide the same
definition of a coding system to both DOS and non-DOS users.
But we don't have a man power to work on it now.

---
Kenichi Handa
handa@m17n.org

  reply	other threads:[~2006-01-13 11:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-13 23:34 [angeli@iwi.uni-sb.de: Coding problem with Euro sign] Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-14 18:56 ` Kevin Rodgers
2005-12-14 22:51   ` Ralf Angeli
2005-12-15  1:34     ` Kevin Rodgers
2005-12-15 16:20       ` Ralf Angeli
2005-12-15 22:02         ` Kevin Rodgers
2005-12-16  8:57           ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-16 17:59             ` Kevin Rodgers
2005-12-17  7:19               ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-16 11:55           ` Ralf Angeli
2005-12-16 22:58             ` Kevin Rodgers
2005-12-17  7:36               ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-17 10:47               ` Reiner Steib
2006-01-10 12:38             ` windows-XXXX and cpXXXX Kenichi Handa
2006-01-10 19:18               ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-11 11:35                 ` Kenichi Handa
2006-01-11 17:46                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-12  1:25                     ` Kenichi Handa
2006-01-12  4:33                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-12  8:29                         ` Werner LEMBERG
2006-01-12 19:56                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-12 13:23                         ` Kenichi Handa
2006-01-12 19:59                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-13  0:58                             ` Kenichi Handa
2006-01-13  8:52                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-13 11:50                                 ` Kenichi Handa [this message]
2006-01-13 12:59                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-16  1:05                                     ` Kenichi Handa
2006-01-16  4:31                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-16 12:11                                         ` Kenichi Handa
2006-01-13 14:45                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-12-16 10:35         ` [angeli@iwi.uni-sb.de: Coding problem with Euro sign] David Hansen

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