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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: angeli@iwi.uni-sb.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: windows-XXXX and cpXXXX
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 19:46:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <u7j9664ke.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1EweGM-0006Ms-00@etlken> (message from Kenichi Handa on Wed, 11 Jan 2006 20:35:34 +0900)

> From: Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>
> CC: angeli@iwi.uni-sb.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 20:35:34 +0900
> 
> >>    cp437 cp720 cp737 cp775 cp850 cp851 cp852 cp855 cp857 cp860
> >>    cp861 cp862 cp863 cp864 cp865 cp866 cp869 cp874 cp1125
> 
> Here, I forgot to add cp1251 and cp9XXs.
> 
> >>  But it seems that windows-XXXX are quite frequently called
> >>  as cpXXXX(*).  If so, I'll register cpXXXXs as alises of the
> >>  corresponding windows-XXXXs, ok?
> 
> > Won't that increase the confusion, which is IMHO already too high,
> > between codepage.el and code-pages.el?  
> 
> They already support a coding system of the same name
> (e.g. cp720) in a different way.

Then I'd rather remove DOS codepages (as opposed to Windows codepages)
from code-pages.el, than add more cpNNN encodings to it.

> What kind of confusion does making aliases cp125[02345678] increase?

Confusion between codepage.el and code-pages.el.  They are different
and subtly incompatible, but define symbols that are almost identical.
As code-pages.el cannot be used in the MS-DOS port, we cannot throw
away codepage.el.  Thus, I think DOS codepages (whose names are cpNNN)
should be provided only by codepage.el.

> I didn't intend to change them.  My suggestion is just to
> make cp125[02345678] as an aliases of windows-125[02345678].

My concern would be how a user is to know which library of the two she
is using, or should use in a given situation.  I already saw several
confused users on help-gnu-emacs.  So I think we need to sanitize
these two libraries from each other's namespace.  Adding cpNNN aliases
would be a step in the wrong direction.

Alternatively, someone who has more time than I do could add to
code-pages.el what it is lacking now to fully support the MS-DOS port,
and then we could toss codepage.el and add the aliases you asked about
to code-pages.el.

  reply	other threads:[~2006-01-11 17:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-13 23:34 [angeli@iwi.uni-sb.de: Coding problem with Euro sign] Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-14 18:56 ` Kevin Rodgers
2005-12-14 22:51   ` Ralf Angeli
2005-12-15  1:34     ` Kevin Rodgers
2005-12-15 16:20       ` Ralf Angeli
2005-12-15 22:02         ` Kevin Rodgers
2005-12-16  8:57           ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-16 17:59             ` Kevin Rodgers
2005-12-17  7:19               ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-16 11:55           ` Ralf Angeli
2005-12-16 22:58             ` Kevin Rodgers
2005-12-17  7:36               ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-12-17 10:47               ` Reiner Steib
2006-01-10 12:38             ` windows-XXXX and cpXXXX Kenichi Handa
2006-01-10 19:18               ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-11 11:35                 ` Kenichi Handa
2006-01-11 17:46                   ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2006-01-12  1:25                     ` Kenichi Handa
2006-01-12  4:33                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-12  8:29                         ` Werner LEMBERG
2006-01-12 19:56                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-12 13:23                         ` Kenichi Handa
2006-01-12 19:59                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-13  0:58                             ` Kenichi Handa
2006-01-13  8:52                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-13 11:50                                 ` Kenichi Handa
2006-01-13 12:59                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-16  1:05                                     ` Kenichi Handa
2006-01-16  4:31                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-01-16 12:11                                         ` Kenichi Handa
2006-01-13 14:45                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-12-16 10:35         ` [angeli@iwi.uni-sb.de: Coding problem with Euro sign] David Hansen

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