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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, storm@cua.dk
Subject: Re: require-hard-newlines to use newline
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 17:16:03 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1DAEtv-0002xs-3L@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3222.220.255.169.59.1110546234.squirrel@www.stupidchicken.com> (cyd@stupidchicken.com)

    > If we agree that those hooks are the proper approach, and you can
    > write the proper doc for them, this is a trivial change, so I don't
    > see why we have to wait.

    Okay then. How about this patch?

It only does a part of the job.  It handles kill, but not registers,
etc.  I think it is implemented at the wrong level.

Stefan wrote:

    I think it's usually important to keep the property that killing doesn't
    modify the buffer's text (when used in copy-as-kill), so rather than having
    before-kill-functions modify the buffer's text just before it's put in the
    kill-ring, it would be more convenient to make it return the string,
    i.e. use it as a replacement for buffer-substring.

That is true, too.

    Another possibility is not to use a hook at all, e.g.:

    (defvar kill-filters nil
      "List of functions for converting a string before it is killed.
    Each function should accept a single argument, a string, and
    return a string.

That is more the right idea, for the part that reads from
the buffer.  But it is not correct to associate this with
killing.  Think of it as a variant of buffer-substring.

    But that makes it difficult to process the string in a way that depends on
    its context.

Maybe so, but is it necessary to do that?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-03-12 22:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-02  2:26 (no subject) Chong Yidong
2005-03-02  3:02 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-02  3:26   ` require-hard-newlines to use newline Chong Yidong
2005-03-02  3:55     ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-03  2:29     ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-03  2:49       ` Chong Yidong
2005-03-03 20:57         ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-03 22:32           ` Chong Yidong
2005-03-04  0:33             ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-04  0:56               ` Chong Yidong
2005-03-04  1:40                 ` Miles Bader
2005-03-04  6:02                   ` Chong Yidong
2005-03-04  9:55                     ` David Kastrup
2005-03-04 23:46                   ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-08  0:05                     ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-08  2:10                       ` Chong Yidong
2005-03-08  3:09                         ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-08  4:28                         ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-08 15:45                           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-08 16:42                             ` Chong Yidong
2005-03-08 18:04                               ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-08 18:12                                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-08 19:02                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-08 18:26                                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-08 16:03                       ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-08 16:39                         ` Chong Yidong
2005-03-09  9:45                           ` Chong Yidong
2005-03-11  1:46                           ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-11  9:10                             ` Chong Yidong
2005-03-11 10:25                               ` Kim F. Storm
2005-03-11 13:03                                 ` Chong Yidong
2005-03-11 14:32                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-11 14:57                                     ` Kim F. Storm
2005-03-11 15:08                                       ` Chong Yidong
2005-03-11 15:28                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-11 15:13                                       ` Chong Yidong
2005-03-11 15:30                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-11 16:11                                         ` Chong Yidong
2005-03-11 17:32                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-12  2:40                                             ` Chong Yidong
2005-03-11 22:29                                           ` Kim F. Storm
2005-03-12  2:23                                             ` Chong Yidong
2005-03-12 22:16                                   ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2005-03-12 23:53                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-14  3:00                                       ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-13  6:14                                     ` Chong Yidong
2005-03-14  3:00                                       ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-14  3:42                                         ` Chong Yidong
2005-03-15 18:39                                           ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-12 22:16                               ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-04 23:45             ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-05  2:03               ` Chong Yidong
2005-03-06  0:41                 ` Richard Stallman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-03-06  2:18 Chong Yidong
2005-03-07  5:02 ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-07 10:45   ` Oliver Scholz
2005-03-08  0:50     ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-08  1:43       ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-08  2:52     ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-08  1:31   ` Luc Teirlinck

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