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From: Luc Teirlinck <teirllm@dms.auburn.edu>
Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: require-hard-newlines to use newline
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 19:31:47 -0600 (CST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200503080131.j281Vl128749@raven.dms.auburn.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1D8AO2-00081u-44@fencepost.gnu.org> (message from Richard Stallman on Mon, 07 Mar 2005 00:02:34 -0500)

Richard Stallman wrote:

   If he did not finish the paragraph, he will probably assume the
   newline is soft.  If he did finish the paragraph, he will probably
   assume the newline is hard.

The way I see it, if use-hard-newlines is enabled, the user finishes a
paragraph by explicitly typing a newline.  That newline _is_ hard.
Newlines inserted by Emacs for filling or standard-following purposes
are soft.

   So I think that use-hard-newlines should inhibit the effect of
   require-final-newline.  It is the only way to get reliable results.

There are two minor modes I know of that use hard newlines: Enriched
mode and Longlines.  I believe that the above solution would be OK for
Enriched mode, at least as long as it only works with text/enriched.
Unless I overlooked something, nothing in RFC1896 requires a final
newline, hard or soft.  I believe, however, that Longlines could
conceivably be used for stuff whose standard requires a final newline.

Sincerely,

Luc.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-03-08  1:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-06  2:18 require-hard-newlines to use newline Chong Yidong
2005-03-07  5:02 ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-07 10:45   ` Oliver Scholz
2005-03-08  0:50     ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-08  1:43       ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-08  2:52     ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-08  1:31   ` Luc Teirlinck [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-03-02  2:26 (no subject) Chong Yidong
2005-03-02  3:02 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-02  3:26   ` require-hard-newlines to use newline Chong Yidong
2005-03-02  3:55     ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-03  2:29     ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-03  2:49       ` Chong Yidong
2005-03-03 20:57         ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-03 22:32           ` Chong Yidong
2005-03-04  0:33             ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-04  0:56               ` Chong Yidong
2005-03-04  1:40                 ` Miles Bader
2005-03-04  6:02                   ` Chong Yidong
2005-03-04  9:55                     ` David Kastrup
2005-03-04 23:46                   ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-08  0:05                     ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-08  2:10                       ` Chong Yidong
2005-03-08  3:09                         ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-08  4:28                         ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-08 15:45                           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-08 16:42                             ` Chong Yidong
2005-03-08 18:04                               ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-08 18:12                                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-08 19:02                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-08 18:26                                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-03-08 16:03                       ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-08 16:39                         ` Chong Yidong
2005-03-09  9:45                           ` Chong Yidong
2005-03-11  1:46                           ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-11  9:10                             ` Chong Yidong
2005-03-11 10:25                               ` Kim F. Storm
2005-03-11 13:03                                 ` Chong Yidong
2005-03-11 14:32                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-11 14:57                                     ` Kim F. Storm
2005-03-11 15:08                                       ` Chong Yidong
2005-03-11 15:28                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-11 15:13                                       ` Chong Yidong
2005-03-11 15:30                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-11 16:11                                         ` Chong Yidong
2005-03-11 17:32                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-12  2:40                                             ` Chong Yidong
2005-03-11 22:29                                           ` Kim F. Storm
2005-03-12  2:23                                             ` Chong Yidong
2005-03-12 22:16                                   ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-12 23:53                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-14  3:00                                       ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-13  6:14                                     ` Chong Yidong
2005-03-14  3:00                                       ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-14  3:42                                         ` Chong Yidong
2005-03-15 18:39                                           ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-12 22:16                               ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-04 23:45             ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-05  2:03               ` Chong Yidong
2005-03-06  0:41                 ` Richard Stallman

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