* Does seq.el need to work with older Emacs versions?
@ 2022-09-03 10:14 Mattias Engdegård
2022-09-03 10:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: Mattias Engdegård @ 2022-09-03 10:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-devel
Please remind me: does lisp/emacs-lisp/seq.el need to work with older Emacs versions and if so which ones?
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* Re: Does seq.el need to work with older Emacs versions?
2022-09-03 10:14 Does seq.el need to work with older Emacs versions? Mattias Engdegård
@ 2022-09-03 10:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-03 10:31 ` Philip Kaludercic
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2022-09-03 10:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mattias Engdegård; +Cc: emacs-devel
> From: Mattias Engdegård <mattiase@acm.org>
> Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 12:14:16 +0200
>
> Please remind me: does lisp/emacs-lisp/seq.el need to work with older Emacs versions and if so which ones?
Only if it's on ELPA, AFAIU.
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* Re: Does seq.el need to work with older Emacs versions?
2022-09-03 10:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2022-09-03 10:31 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-09-03 14:24 ` Mattias Engdegård
2022-09-03 15:01 ` Stefan Kangas
0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Philip Kaludercic @ 2022-09-03 10:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: Mattias Engdegård, emacs-devel
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> From: Mattias Engdegård <mattiase@acm.org>
>> Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 12:14:16 +0200
>>
>> Please remind me: does lisp/emacs-lisp/seq.el need to work with older Emacs versions and if so which ones?
>
> Only if it's on ELPA, AFAIU.
ELPA's seq currently only consists of the following
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(if (version< emacs-version "25")
(require 'seq-24)
(require 'seq-25))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
where seq-24.el is a compatibility version, while seq-25.el appears to
be the same as lisp/emacs-lisp/seq.el (or at least the version from a
year ago). What I guess this means is that lisp/emacs-lisp/seq.el
should preserve compatibility up until Emacs 25, unless another
backport version should be added to the ELPA package.
Out of curiosity, what are you looking to change that might break older
versions of Emacs?
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* Re: Does seq.el need to work with older Emacs versions?
2022-09-03 10:31 ` Philip Kaludercic
@ 2022-09-03 14:24 ` Mattias Engdegård
2022-09-03 15:01 ` Stefan Kangas
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From: Mattias Engdegård @ 2022-09-03 14:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Philip Kaludercic; +Cc: Eli Zaretskii, emacs-devel
3 sep. 2022 kl. 12.31 skrev Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>:
> Out of curiosity, what are you looking to change that might break older
> versions of Emacs?
Only simplification of some unnecessarily guarded code in the implementation (fboundp checks) but I'd like to make sure that it's safe to do so.
Since ELPA's seq appears to be maintained in separate files and does not copy seq.el from the Emacs tree directly this appears to be the case but it's nice to have it confirmed.
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* Re: Does seq.el need to work with older Emacs versions?
2022-09-03 10:31 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-09-03 14:24 ` Mattias Engdegård
@ 2022-09-03 15:01 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-09-03 16:00 ` Mattias Engdegård
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From: Stefan Kangas @ 2022-09-03 15:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Philip Kaludercic, Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: Mattias Engdegård, emacs-devel
Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net> writes:
> ELPA's seq currently only consists of the following
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> (if (version< emacs-version "25")
> (require 'seq-24)
> (require 'seq-25))
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> where seq-24.el is a compatibility version, while seq-25.el appears to
> be the same as lisp/emacs-lisp/seq.el (or at least the version from a
> year ago). What I guess this means is that lisp/emacs-lisp/seq.el
> should preserve compatibility up until Emacs 25, unless another
> backport version should be added to the ELPA package.
Unlike other core packages, seq.el is manually merged to GNU ELPA. So
we can be flexible when we decide how to go about it.
Before breaking backwards compatibility with Emacs 25, perhaps it would
be a good idea to update seq-25.el on GNU ELPA to match what we
currently have on master.
We could then always,
(if (version< emacs-version "29") ; or something
(require 'seq-25)
(require 'seq-29))
or even,
(cond ((version< emacs-version "25") (require seq-24))
((version< emacs-version "29") (require seq-25))
(t (require seq-29)))
And then update "Package-Requires" accordingly.
As for going forward, I guess it is somewhat nice to maintain backwards
compatibility. But I don't know if it's worth doing indefinitely.
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* Re: Does seq.el need to work with older Emacs versions?
2022-09-03 15:01 ` Stefan Kangas
@ 2022-09-03 16:00 ` Mattias Engdegård
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From: Mattias Engdegård @ 2022-09-03 16:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Kangas; +Cc: Philip Kaludercic, Eli Zaretskii, emacs-devel
3 sep. 2022 kl. 17.01 skrev Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>:
> Before breaking backwards compatibility with Emacs 25, perhaps it would
> be a good idea to update seq-25.el on GNU ELPA to match what we
> currently have on master.
A bit late for that and I'm to blame: apparently I made one change (adding calls to `take`) carefully preserving compatibility and another blatantly ignoring it so now I'm doubling down and cutting the fat I could find. Sorry if I'm causing you extra trouble.
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