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From: Ergus <spacibba@aol.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org,Naoya Yamashita <conao3@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Include leaf in Emacs distribution
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2020 11:00:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CFB8BCEE-D830-4ED5-A2FF-25A784C50074@aol.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201008.103747.1339582189858984269.conao3@gmail.com>

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Hí Naoya:

Some weeks ago I mention exactly this same topic with not reply. I may say that I use use-package but it seems there is not progress with the copyright issues there.

So far if we add leaf, native-compiker, which-key and ivy probably it is enough to make a new release :p

So in that case I will be fine if leaf comes to vanilla and I wont have objection to migrate. 

I expect that leaf brings all the use-package functionalities right? AFAIR it didn't have a verbose obtion useful to debug and some other customs use-package has... But maybe I can live with that.

Thanks for the package,
Ergus



On October 8, 2020 3:37:47 AM GMT+02:00, Naoya Yamashita <conao3@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Hello, all.
>
>I'm author of leaf[1][2] which is one of ELPA package.  I propose
>to add the package in the default Emacs dictribution.
>
>leaf is included in ELPA from this message[3] but the 13 emails
>with Stefan starting with this one did not appear to have been
>sent to this ML and were not archived.  If anyone is interested,
>I'll put them in public.  (It is needed from Stefan's agreement maybe.)
>
>Now, leaf wraps the idiom for configuring Emacs packages.  If
>you're using use-package[4], it's not hard to imagine.  The offering
>is pretty much the same but bit different.
>
>Why did I create leaf?  Because the syntax of the use-package was
>a bit confusing and there were copyright issues[5].
>
>If we have leaf as default Emacs package, users don't need the
>leafs own bootstrap, and even the package.el configuration can
>be written in leaf.  Now users need package.el to install leaf, and
>he couldnt use leaf to configure it.
>
>I believe that leaf is needed to make it easier and more
>straightforward for Emacs users to install packages.  And I think
>it will be the centerpiece of the upcoming Emacs-28[6].  Please
>comment.
>
>
>[1]: https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/leaf.html
>[2]: https://github.com/conao3/leaf.el
>[3]:
>https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2020-05/msg00741.html
>[4]: https://github.com/jwiegley/use-package
>[5]:
>https://github.com/jwiegley/use-package/issues/282#issuecomment-624250623
>[6]:
>https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2020-09/msg00357.html

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-08  9:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-08  1:37 Include leaf in Emacs distribution Naoya Yamashita
2020-10-08  9:00 ` Ergus [this message]
2020-10-08  9:22   ` Naoya Yamashita
2020-10-10 10:11     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-11  5:24       ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-11  8:39         ` Naoya Yamashita
2020-10-11  9:52           ` Thibaut Verron
2020-10-11 16:50             ` Naoya Yamashita
2020-10-11 17:12               ` Thibaut Verron
2020-10-12  2:10                 ` Naoya Yamashita
2020-10-12 20:23                   ` Ergus via Emacs development discussions.
2020-10-11 17:02           ` Stefan Kangas
2020-10-11 16:51   ` Stefan Kangas
2020-10-12 20:53     ` Mingde (Matthew) Zeng
2020-10-11 17:22 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-10-12  1:35   ` Naoya Yamashita
2020-10-12 22:13     ` Stefan Kangas
2020-10-12 22:19       ` Qiantan Hong
2020-10-12 22:39       ` Caio Henrique
2020-10-13 13:23         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-13 14:14           ` Thibaut Verron
2020-10-13 14:29             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-13 15:29               ` Thibaut Verron
2020-10-18  9:32                 ` Phil Sainty
2020-10-13 15:25           ` Caio Henrique
2020-10-23  2:37             ` Naoya Yamashita
2020-10-23  3:41               ` John Wiegley
2020-10-23 14:33                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-23 15:53                   ` Naoya Yamashita
2020-10-23 16:46                     ` Warnings in init files (was: Include leaf in Emacs distribution) Stefan Monnier
2020-10-23 18:11                     ` Include leaf in Emacs distribution T.V Raman
2020-10-23 18:41               ` Stefan Kangas
2020-10-23 20:04                 ` John Wiegley
2020-11-16  5:29                   ` Naoya Yamashita
2020-11-17  0:39                     ` John Wiegley
2020-11-20 11:04                       ` Naoya Yamashita
2020-11-20 11:29                         ` Pankaj Jangid
2020-11-20 15:44                         ` T.V Raman

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