From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>
To: Naoya Yamashita <conao3@gmail.com>
Cc: johnw@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Include leaf in Emacs distribution
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2020 22:13:53 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADwFkmnK6v7qW59m8Ac8Gkh-jQCPxYRsaxcQzXDVYkhL-UOinw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201012.103522.1802478978485184324.conao3@gmail.com>
Naoya Yamashita <conao3@gmail.com> writes:
> From my point of view the syntax of use-package is confusing.
> For example, :when is naturally designed to evaluate a given
> S-expression and is only enabled when non-nil is returned, but
> :disabled is not. That is, (use-package flymake :disabled t) and
> (use-package flymake :disabled nil) will be converted to nil,
> respectively. This is unnatural. Also, :when can be a free
> S-expression, but not :disabled.
I'm not sure I understand. Are you saying that, in use-package, the
existence of `:disabled' means that the package will not be loaded even
if its value is specified to be nil?
> Other keyword, :mode and :hook specify a cons cell, but :custom
> specifies a list. This can be confusing for newcomers.
Could you show an example of this?
> Both issue are solved in my leaf.
Do you see any other major benefits of leaf over use-package? Or the
other way around?
Could you explain why I would want to use one or the other (as a user)?
Could you explain why Emacs would want to include one or the other (as
developers)?
I believe that the answers to the above questions would help improve
everyone's understanding of the issues involved.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-10-12 22:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-10-08 1:37 Include leaf in Emacs distribution Naoya Yamashita
2020-10-08 9:00 ` Ergus
2020-10-08 9:22 ` Naoya Yamashita
2020-10-10 10:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-11 5:24 ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-11 8:39 ` Naoya Yamashita
2020-10-11 9:52 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-10-11 16:50 ` Naoya Yamashita
2020-10-11 17:12 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-10-12 2:10 ` Naoya Yamashita
2020-10-12 20:23 ` Ergus via Emacs development discussions.
2020-10-11 17:02 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-10-11 16:51 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-10-12 20:53 ` Mingde (Matthew) Zeng
2020-10-11 17:22 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-10-12 1:35 ` Naoya Yamashita
2020-10-12 22:13 ` Stefan Kangas [this message]
2020-10-12 22:19 ` Qiantan Hong
2020-10-12 22:39 ` Caio Henrique
2020-10-13 13:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-13 14:14 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-10-13 14:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-13 15:29 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-10-18 9:32 ` Phil Sainty
2020-10-13 15:25 ` Caio Henrique
2020-10-23 2:37 ` Naoya Yamashita
2020-10-23 3:41 ` John Wiegley
2020-10-23 14:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-23 15:53 ` Naoya Yamashita
2020-10-23 16:46 ` Warnings in init files (was: Include leaf in Emacs distribution) Stefan Monnier
2020-10-23 18:11 ` Include leaf in Emacs distribution T.V Raman
2020-10-23 18:41 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-10-23 20:04 ` John Wiegley
2020-11-16 5:29 ` Naoya Yamashita
2020-11-17 0:39 ` John Wiegley
2020-11-20 11:04 ` Naoya Yamashita
2020-11-20 11:29 ` Pankaj Jangid
2020-11-20 15:44 ` T.V Raman
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