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From: Lynn Winebarger <owinebar@gmail.com>
To: Yuan Fu <casouri@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Unboxed package manager
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2023 05:09:00 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAM=F=bC3e4CeAVt=qaX_e=A87SRWuHY5eQVhPzhDChLBqs23uw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAM=F=bCeOzcfr-9roYnknmMeEWuwS9BDE8Sfz8sW+AQDb405nw@mail.gmail.com>

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On Mon, Mar 20, 2023, 4:55 AM Lynn Winebarger <owinebar@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 20, 2023, 2:31 AM Yuan Fu <casouri@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> > On Mar 19, 2023, at 6:18 PM, Lynn Winebarger <owinebar@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I've
>> > done this manually on various systems I use with a significant
>> > improvement in startup performance.
>>
>> It'll be interesting to see the numbers on the improvement. How much does
>> it improve startup time if there is x packages and y are loaded at startup
>> time?
>>
>
>
> Good question. The systems I've done this manually on are one-off builds
> of 28.x on sandboxed systems where the system emacs is 24.3.  So, I didn't
> have to worry about managing package updates with any frequency.
>

I don't have any hard measurements, but my recollection is that installing
~1200 packages on those systems and "loading the world" took something like
5 minutes, while a similar set of packages installed in a unified directory
takes about 1.5 minutes.  Also, when set up with AOT native compiled
libraries, the startup time was more like 15 minutes, or at least long
enough for me to walk away, make coffee, drink the coffee slowly, and still
find the startup in progress.  The native libraries are in a cache
directory, but they have to locate the source file and compute a checksum
at load time, so the length of the load-path is still an issue....

Take those numbers with a container of salt though, since I did that last
summer and took a big detour to effectively enable dumping all the packages
as preloaded native-compiled libraries before going back and trying just
working with the byte-compiled version in December.

Lynn

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-20  9:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-20  1:18 Unboxed package manager Lynn Winebarger
2023-03-20  6:30 ` Yuan Fu
2023-03-20  8:55   ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-03-20  9:09     ` Lynn Winebarger [this message]
2023-03-20 15:25       ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-03-20 16:12         ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-03-20 16:53           ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-03-20 18:11           ` Jonas Bernoulli
2023-03-21  1:40             ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-03-22 11:17               ` Jonas Bernoulli
2023-03-22 14:31                 ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-03-22 23:39                   ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-03-21 19:06         ` Augusto Stoffel
2023-03-21 19:10           ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-03-21 19:57             ` Augusto Stoffel
2023-03-21 20:06               ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-03-21  0:23       ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-21  0:25         ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-21  1:55           ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-03-21 10:36             ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-03-21 10:52               ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-21 13:23                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-21 13:33                   ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-21 14:13                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-21 14:20                       ` Gregory Heytings
2023-03-21 17:29                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-22  0:48                           ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-03-22 14:42                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-22 22:22                               ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-03-23  6:46                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-23 13:30                                   ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-03-24 17:54                                     ` chad
2023-03-26  1:51                                       ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-03-23  1:44                               ` David Masterson
2023-03-23  7:02                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-22  7:29                           ` tomas

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