From: "João Távora" <joaotavora@gmail.com>
To: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>,
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Proposal: Forwards-Compatibility Library for Emacs
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2021 08:12:13 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALDnm52EuMC7CFfO5Brw-MF7dbv7WUeA=hj+JTyiczJRcWqg1w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ee9hqexx.fsf@posteo.net>
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 7:53 AM Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net> wrote:
> This might work for subr-x and other elisp packages (in which case these
> could just be added as dependencies to the effectively virtual package
> compat).
Yes, correct. So my next ELPA package would just Package-Require: the
ELPA package compat, which would bring in "lots of compatibility" (though
not 100% right away).
> On the other hand: If the functions are implemented in C, then they have
> to be replicated some other way. And this doesn't just apply to
> length{<,=,>}, string-distance, etc. but any function that might end up
> using them down the call stack.
Those could be isolated in some "cshims.el" package. I don't know
if they would effectively be dependencies of lots of other packages.
It depends.
> In principle, these two approaches can be merged,
Yes, correct, the two approaches should be merged, and my feeling
is that your approach is useful mostly to fill the gaps where the current
one doesn't cut it.
> but I have the impression that this would be more complicated
Funny, I have the opposite feeling. I think it would be simpler, since
for some high percentage of cases just Package-Require-ing some
:core packages by domain would be enough for the Emacs versions
that you wish to support. Certainly with Eglot, a fairly complex package
it has been (mostly) [*] the case, but then again Eglot only goes back to
26.3.
João
*: "mostly", because we indeed have our shim for "executable-find" there.
"executable-find" comes from "files.el", so maybe we could just
Package-Require it?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-09-22 7:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-09-20 23:35 Proposal: Forwards-Compatibility Library for Emacs Philip Kaludercic
2021-09-21 0:30 ` Adam Porter
2021-09-21 4:10 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-21 8:28 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-09-21 12:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-21 12:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-21 12:50 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-21 13:38 ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-21 13:49 ` João Távora
2021-09-21 13:00 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-09-21 13:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-21 13:28 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-09-21 13:24 ` João Távora
2021-09-21 13:29 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-09-21 13:50 ` João Távora
2021-09-21 14:59 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-21 12:58 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-09-21 13:37 ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-21 13:54 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-09-21 14:18 ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-21 15:02 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-21 15:40 ` João Távora
2021-09-21 16:10 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-09-21 16:22 ` João Távora
2021-09-21 17:22 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-21 17:29 ` João Távora
2021-09-21 19:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-21 21:06 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-09-21 21:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-22 6:48 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-09-22 17:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-22 18:54 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-09-22 19:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-21 21:57 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-21 22:08 ` João Távora
2021-09-21 22:16 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-21 22:24 ` João Távora
2021-09-21 22:25 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-21 22:34 ` João Távora
2021-09-22 6:53 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-09-22 7:12 ` João Távora [this message]
2021-09-22 7:14 ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-21 13:05 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-09-21 13:27 ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-21 13:45 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-09-21 14:05 ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-21 22:17 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-21 22:24 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-22 9:54 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-10-04 23:00 ` [ELPA] Add compat.el Philip Kaludercic
2021-10-07 7:03 ` Old (static) builds of Emacs Philip Kaludercic
2021-10-07 7:48 ` Michael Albinus
2021-10-07 7:56 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-10-07 12:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-07 20:29 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-10-07 21:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-11-30 21:21 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-12-01 13:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-07 20:49 ` [ELPA] Add compat.el Philip Kaludercic
2021-10-08 5:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-08 9:59 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-10-08 11:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-08 11:35 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-10-08 7:45 ` Mattias Engdegård
2021-10-08 10:00 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-10-15 19:08 ` Philip Kaludercic
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