Emacs 28.3 RC1 testing

Emacs 28.3 RC1 testing

[Troy Hinckley]

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What more needs to be done before we can release Emacs 28.3? It looks like it has been tested on Windows and Linux. Is there anything I can work on to help the release process?

— Troy Hinckley

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Re: Emacs 28.3 RC1 testing

[Charalampos Mitrodimas]

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I'm also interested in this one. Is there a scheduled release date for Emacs 28.3?

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Charalampos

On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 04:52:14PM -0600, Troy Hinckley wrote:
>    What more needs to be done before we can release Emacs 28.3? It looks
>    like it has been tested on Windows and Linux. Is there anything I can
>    work on to help the release process?
> 
>    â Troy Hinckley

Re: Emacs 28.3 RC1 testing

[Corwin Brust]

On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 5:23 AM Charalampos Mitrodimas
<charmitro@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm also interested in this one. Is there a scheduled release date for Emacs 28.3?
>

FWIW, running the 28.3 pre-release for several weeks, I noticed
nothing unusual (Windows binaries from Alpha).

RE: [External] : Re: Emacs 28.3 RC1 testing

[Drew Adams]

> > I'm also interested in this one. Is there a scheduled release date for
> Emacs 28.3?
> >
> 
> FWIW, running the 28.3 pre-release for several weeks, I noticed
> nothing unusual (Windows binaries from Alpha).

What the URL for that 28.3 prerelease on MS Windows?

The latest RC I see at https://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/windows/emacs-28/
is RC1, dated 2023-02-19.

Re: [External] : Re: Emacs 28.3 RC1 testing

[Charalampos Mitrodimas]

On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 04:27:21PM +0000, Drew Adams wrote:
> > > I'm also interested in this one. Is there a scheduled release date for
> > Emacs 28.3?
> > >
> > 
> > FWIW, running the 28.3 pre-release for several weeks, I noticed
> > nothing unusual (Windows binaries from Alpha).
> 
> What the URL for that 28.3 prerelease on MS Windows?
> 
> The latest RC I see at https://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/windows/emacs-28/
> is RC1, dated 2023-02-19.

Hey Drew, I believe 28.3-rc1 is the one that Corwin is refering as "pre-release".

RE: [External] : Re: Emacs 28.3 RC1 testing

[Drew Adams]

> > What the URL for that 28.3 prerelease on MS Windows?
> >
> > The latest RC I see at
> > https://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/windows/emacs-28
> > is RC1, dated 2023-02-19.
> 
> Hey Drew, I believe 28.3-rc1 is the one that Corwin is refering as "pre-
> release".

I see; thx.  I was expecting that to have been the
release candidate for Emacs 28.2, which was released.

Re: [External] : Re: Emacs 28.3 RC1 testing

[Corwin Brust]

On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 11:49 AM Charalampos Mitrodimas
<charmitro@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 04:27:21PM +0000, Drew Adams wrote:
> > The latest RC I see at https://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/windows/emacs-28/
> > is RC1, dated 2023-02-19.
>
> Hey Drew, I believe 28.3-rc1 is the one that Corwin is refering as "pre-release".

You are correct - 28.3-rc1 is the pre-release I was referring to.  I
suspect Drew mistyped as he's got the dates correct for when that was
posted.

I use this sorting, so the most recently posted are on top:
https://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/windows/emacs-28/?C=M;O=D

RE: [External] : Re: Emacs 28.3 RC1 testing

[Drew Adams]

> > > The latest RC I see at https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/windows/emacs-28
> > > is RC1, dated 2023-02-19.
> >
> > Hey Drew, I believe 28.3-rc1 is the one that Corwin is refering as "pre-
> release".
> 
> You are correct - 28.3-rc1 is the pre-release I was referring to.  I
> suspect Drew mistyped as he's got the dates correct for when that was
> posted.

Duh.  For some reason I was seeing the "rc1" in the name
and not noticing the "28.3" in the name.  Thx.

Re: [External] : Re: Emacs 28.3 RC1 testing

[Corwin Brust]

On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 2:30 PM Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> wrote:
>
> > > > The latest RC I see at https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/windows/emacs-28
> > > > is RC1, dated 2023-02-19.

[snip]
>
> Duh.  For some reason I was seeing the "rc1" in the name
> and not noticing the "28.3" in the name.  Thx.

Yay, glad that was it. I appreciate that you are trying these out.

FTR, the prerelease tarball Stephen make creates Emacs 28.3.  That's
slightly different from what I think of as normal but might work to
our advantage.

The only part of the file names I thought about, particularly, was
deciding to append "-rc1" to the base names for this set. The base
names are generally derived from how Emacs built from the tarball
self-identifies. In particular, "nsi" script (which creates the
self-installer) is fairly fussy about how we name the folder
containing Emacs as produced by "make install"; I'd have had various
stuff to figure out I'd wanted to publish this as 28.2.90 (even
assuming I'm correct that would have been a more typical version
identifier for prerelease we're discussing, which I'm not quite ready
to).

Usually, the pre-release tarballs I've worked with create Emacs
versioned as X.Y.Z, with "X" being the relevant major version, "Y"
being the last stable minor version of that major version (or zero if,
e.g. the prerelease will become X.1), and "Z" being 90 + (count of
prior pre-release tarballs published).

In any case, even if I have *that* hopelessly (or quite trivally)
wrong, even aside how the Windows binaries are named, I think there
may be a practical upshot:

Stephen and I can potentially republish the same tarballs to the other
site to release Emacs 28.3, effectively turning the pre-release into
the release.

Do we agree that would work? And that we are ready? Are there
ancillary changes, such as updating online manuals[0]?

Eli?

[0] https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/

Re: [External] : Re: Emacs 28.3 RC1 testing

[Troy Hinckley]

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Who needs to sign off to do the release? Is that only Eli or Stefan?
On Mar 18, 2023 at 3:08 PM -0600, Corwin Brust <corwin@bru.st>, wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 2:30 PM Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > The latest RC I see at https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/windows/emacs-28
> > > > > is RC1, dated 2023-02-19.
>
> [snip]
> >
> > Duh. For some reason I was seeing the "rc1" in the name
> > and not noticing the "28.3" in the name. Thx.
>
> Yay, glad that was it. I appreciate that you are trying these out.
>
> FTR, the prerelease tarball Stephen make creates Emacs 28.3. That's
> slightly different from what I think of as normal but might work to
> our advantage.
>
> The only part of the file names I thought about, particularly, was
> deciding to append "-rc1" to the base names for this set. The base
> names are generally derived from how Emacs built from the tarball
> self-identifies. In particular, "nsi" script (which creates the
> self-installer) is fairly fussy about how we name the folder
> containing Emacs as produced by "make install"; I'd have had various
> stuff to figure out I'd wanted to publish this as 28.2.90 (even
> assuming I'm correct that would have been a more typical version
> identifier for prerelease we're discussing, which I'm not quite ready
> to).
>
> Usually, the pre-release tarballs I've worked with create Emacs
> versioned as X.Y.Z, with "X" being the relevant major version, "Y"
> being the last stable minor version of that major version (or zero if,
> e.g. the prerelease will become X.1), and "Z" being 90 + (count of
> prior pre-release tarballs published).
>
> In any case, even if I have *that* hopelessly (or quite trivally)
> wrong, even aside how the Windows binaries are named, I think there
> may be a practical upshot:
>
> Stephen and I can potentially republish the same tarballs to the other
> site to release Emacs 28.3, effectively turning the pre-release into
> the release.
>
> Do we agree that would work? And that we are ready? Are there
> ancillary changes, such as updating online manuals[0]?
>
> Eli?
>
> [0] https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/

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Re: [External] : Re: Emacs 28.3 RC1 testing

[Eli Zaretskii]

> Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2023 10:12:35 -0600
> From: Troy Hinckley <comms@dabrev.com>
> Cc: Charalampos Mitrodimas <charmitro@gmail.com>, 
>  "emacs-devel@gnu.org" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>, Lars
>  Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
> 
> Who needs to sign off to do the release? Is that only Eli or Stefan?

Stefan was working on releasing Emacs 28.3.

Re: [External] : Re: Emacs 28.3 RC1 testing

[Troy Hinckley]

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Hi Stefan,
What can I do to help with the 28.3 release process?
On Mar 27, 2023 at 11:35 AM -0500, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, wrote:
> > Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2023 10:12:35 -0600
> > From: Troy Hinckley <comms@dabrev.com>
> > Cc: Charalampos Mitrodimas <charmitro@gmail.com>,
> > "emacs-devel@gnu.org" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>, Lars
> > Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
> >
> > Who needs to sign off to do the release? Is that only Eli or Stefan?
>
> Stefan was working on releasing Emacs 28.3.

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