* Re: emacs-27 efd4e97: Reflect the emacs-devel ELPA/MELPA dispute in FAQ [not found] ` <20200516073207.56ED020999@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> @ 2020-05-16 20:09 ` Dmitry Gutov 2020-05-17 2:31 ` Eli Zaretskii 2020-05-17 3:53 ` Adam Porter 0 siblings, 2 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Dmitry Gutov @ 2020-05-16 20:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-devel, Eli Zaretskii Hi Eli, On 16.05.2020 10:32, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > @@ -3479,7 +3479,10 @@ There are other, non-GNU, Emacs Lisp package servers, including: > @uref{https://marmalade-repo.org, Marmalade}. To use additional Should we also remove the mention of Marmalade altogether? It's really defunct these days. And it was in no way special regarding the "non-free software" situation. There are few alternatives, but mentioning MELPA Stable (https://stable.melpa.org/) is one option. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: emacs-27 efd4e97: Reflect the emacs-devel ELPA/MELPA dispute in FAQ 2020-05-16 20:09 ` emacs-27 efd4e97: Reflect the emacs-devel ELPA/MELPA dispute in FAQ Dmitry Gutov @ 2020-05-17 2:31 ` Eli Zaretskii 2020-05-17 21:19 ` chad 2020-05-17 3:53 ` Adam Porter 1 sibling, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2020-05-17 2:31 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Dmitry Gutov; +Cc: emacs-devel > From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru> > Date: Sat, 16 May 2020 23:09:15 +0300 > > On 16.05.2020 10:32, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > @@ -3479,7 +3479,10 @@ There are other, non-GNU, Emacs Lisp package servers, including: > > @uref{https://marmalade-repo.org, Marmalade}. To use additional > > Should we also remove the mention of Marmalade altogether? I don't have an opinion about this. We should probably ask users. Alternatively, we could say in the FAQ that Marmalade is old and unmaintained, and leave it to the readers to decide what to do with that. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: emacs-27 efd4e97: Reflect the emacs-devel ELPA/MELPA dispute in FAQ 2020-05-17 2:31 ` Eli Zaretskii @ 2020-05-17 21:19 ` chad 0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: chad @ 2020-05-17 21:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: EMACS development team, Dmitry Gutov [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1256 bytes --] On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 7:31 PM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote: > > From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru> > > Date: Sat, 16 May 2020 23:09:15 +0300 > > > > On 16.05.2020 10:32, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > @@ -3479,7 +3479,10 @@ There are other, non-GNU, Emacs Lisp package > servers, including: > > > @uref{https://marmalade-repo.org, Marmalade}. To use additional > > > > Should we also remove the mention of Marmalade altogether? > > I don't have an opinion about this. We should probably ask users. [...] > IMHO, we should remove the mention of Marmalade. Marmalade is unsupported enough that it causes security warnings due to its certificate having expired. Attempting to visit the web page will generate various scary error messages in basically every browser (including eww), and the EmacsWiki page on it has this to say: Marmalade <https://marmalade-repo.org/> was an ELPA > <https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/ELPA> compatible package repository that > allowed users to upload their own packages. Package maintainers did not > have to be the same as the maintainers of the original code. This is > somewhat like major GNU/Linux distributions. > The repository had availability problems and is now discontinued. > Hope that helps, ~Chad [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 2517 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: emacs-27 efd4e97: Reflect the emacs-devel ELPA/MELPA dispute in FAQ 2020-05-16 20:09 ` emacs-27 efd4e97: Reflect the emacs-devel ELPA/MELPA dispute in FAQ Dmitry Gutov 2020-05-17 2:31 ` Eli Zaretskii @ 2020-05-17 3:53 ` Adam Porter 2020-05-17 21:38 ` Dmitry Gutov 1 sibling, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Adam Porter @ 2020-05-17 3:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-devel Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru> writes: > There are few alternatives, but mentioning MELPA Stable > (https://stable.melpa.org/) is one option. Please don't encourage users to use MELPA Stable. There's already enough users using it under false pretenses, thinking it's like MELPA's version of Debian Stable, when it's actually more like Debian oldstable if it were used together with Debian current-stable backports--IOW an often-outdated set of packages mixed with some newer ones in unexpected, sometimes incompatible ways. For more discussion, see https://github.com/melpa/melpa/issues/6656 and the other discussions linked there. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: emacs-27 efd4e97: Reflect the emacs-devel ELPA/MELPA dispute in FAQ 2020-05-17 3:53 ` Adam Porter @ 2020-05-17 21:38 ` Dmitry Gutov 0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Dmitry Gutov @ 2020-05-17 21:38 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Adam Porter, emacs-devel On 17.05.2020 06:53, Adam Porter wrote: > For more discussion, seehttps://github.com/melpa/melpa/issues/6656 and > the other discussions linked there. Interesting thread, thank you. Regarding encouragement of MELPA Stable, the issue is moot now that Richard removed the whole paragraph. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
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