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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: alexander.pohoyda@gmx.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: how-many/count-matches for non-interactive use
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 14:41:58 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zn2mh5jk.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1CIoyS-0002xV-7v@fencepost.gnu.org> (Richard Stallman's message of "Sat, 16 Oct 2004 09:51:56 -0400")

>> It seems that interactive-p as currently defined is very rarely useful
>> -- perhaps never.  Perhaps we should change interactive-p to ignore
>> whether the command is running from a macro and do what most people
>> seem to expect.

>     I think we should declare it obsolete because the alternative (of
>     adding an argument) is always clearer, less brittle, and allows
>     callers better control.

> Before we say it is obsolete, we had better see if anyone does really
> want it.  It would be very good for someone to determine which, if
> any, of the current uses of interactive-p really want the current
> behavior of interactive-p.

The current behavior can still be obtained without interactive-p by checking
executing-macro.  Doing it that way also has the advantage of being much
more clear.
I doubt anybody used interactive-p rather than an extra argument just
because of the subtle difference w.r.t keyboard macros.  I expect 99% of the
people who used interactive-p haven't even thought about the interaction
with keyboard macros.


        Stefan

  reply	other threads:[~2004-10-16 18:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-09-24  6:09 [rmail-mbox-branch]: expunge Alfred M. Szmidt
2004-09-24  7:16 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-09-24  8:21   ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2004-09-24  9:23     ` Kim F. Storm
2004-09-24 12:03       ` Paul Michael Reilly
2004-09-25  7:08       ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-03 10:40         ` Alexander Pohoyda
2004-10-04 15:18           ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-06 21:38             ` [rmail-mbox-branch]: mail-utils Alexander Pohoyda
2004-10-06 21:47               ` Miles Bader
2004-10-08 23:34                 ` Alexander Pohoyda
2004-10-08 23:47                   ` Miles Bader
2004-10-09 16:04                     ` Alexander Pohoyda
2004-10-09 17:12                       ` Stefan
2004-10-09 18:15                         ` Alexander Pohoyda
2004-10-09 18:20                           ` Miles Bader
2004-10-09 21:02                             ` Alexander Pohoyda
2004-10-09 21:10                               ` Miles Bader
2004-10-09 21:19                                 ` Miles Bader
2004-10-10 15:15                                   ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-10 22:58                                     ` Miles Bader
2004-10-11 16:45                                       ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-12  2:09                                         ` Miles Bader
2004-10-12 14:42                                         ` Juri Linkov
2004-10-12 15:03                                           ` Miles Bader
2004-10-12 16:05                                             ` Syncing Gnus with Emacs and back (was: [rmail-mbox-branch]: mail-utils) Reiner Steib
2004-10-13  1:26                                               ` Syncing Gnus with Emacs and back Miles Bader
2004-10-13 20:21                                                 ` Reiner Steib
2004-10-13 22:51                                                   ` Miles Bader
2004-10-14  7:47                                                     ` Miles Bader
2004-10-13 14:43                                           ` [rmail-mbox-branch]: mail-utils Richard Stallman
2004-10-09 19:02                           ` Stefan
2004-10-09 20:40                             ` Alexander Pohoyda
2004-10-11 10:36                       ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-08 16:06               ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-08 23:17                 ` Alexander Pohoyda
2004-10-10 15:16                   ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-10 23:50                     ` Alexander Pohoyda
2004-10-11 16:45                       ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-11 19:01                         ` Alexander Pohoyda
2004-10-12  8:57                           ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-12 16:12                             ` Alexander Pohoyda
2004-10-13 14:42                               ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-13 18:16 ` how-many/count-matches for non-interactive use Alexander Pohoyda
2004-10-15  0:26   ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-15  6:28     ` Alexander Pohoyda
2004-10-15 12:22       ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-15 15:30         ` Alexander Pohoyda
2004-10-16 13:52           ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-16 21:49             ` Alexander Pohoyda
2004-10-15 12:54     ` Stefan
2004-10-16 13:51       ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-16 18:41         ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2004-10-16 22:00           ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-17 15:19             ` Stefan Monnier
2004-10-17 20:53               ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-17 21:44                 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-10-18  8:39                 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-18 13:59                 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-19  1:58                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-19  2:08                     ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-19 10:29                     ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-19 17:17                       ` Alexander Pohoyda
2004-10-20 12:01                         ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-19 16:46                     ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-19 22:08                       ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-21  1:45                         ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-21  3:22                           ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-20  1:14                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-20  1:35                         ` David Kastrup
2004-10-20 13:28                         ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-10-20  1:27                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-21  1:45                         ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-21  3:08                           ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-22 10:47                             ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-22 12:54                               ` Convert keyboard macros to Lisp (was: how-many/count-matches for non-interactive use) Juri Linkov
2004-10-23 13:54                                 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-22 17:35                               ` how-many/count-matches for non-interactive use Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-22 22:22                               ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-23  1:53                                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-23 11:32                                 ` John Paul Wallington
2004-10-23 18:49                                 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-23 20:36                                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-24 17:09                                     ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-26  3:09                                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-26  8:19                                         ` Kim F. Storm
2004-11-02  8:53                                         ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-24  2:31                                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-24 17:09                                     ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-25  1:53                                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-26  9:05                                         ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-25  2:53                                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-26  9:04                                         ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-25  3:08                                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-24 17:09                                     ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-23 18:49                                 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-25 14:04                                   ` Ken Manheimer
2004-10-27 10:49                                     ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-28  4:39                                     ` Ken Manheimer
2004-11-02 15:48                                       ` Ken Manheimer
2004-11-07  3:37                                         ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-23 18:49                                 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-23 19:53                                   ` John Paul Wallington
2004-10-23 18:49                                 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-21 22:13                           ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-23  4:48                             ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-23 16:03                               ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-18  8:32               ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-17 16:07           ` Richard Stallman

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