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From: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
Cc: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>,
	rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, ding@gnus.org
Subject: Re: [rmail-mbox-branch]: mail-utils
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 19:47:41 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041008234741.GA17298@fencepost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mzywyeau.fsf@oak.pohoyda.family>

On Sat, Oct 09, 2004 at 01:34:49AM +0200, Alexander Pohoyda wrote:
> > The mm- stuff seems not to be intended to be gnus-specific, but rather
> > general-purpose code for handling mime that happens to be developed as part
> > of gnus.
> 
> Yes, I understand the intention.
> 
> 
> > There are probably a few dependencies on gnus that have crept in, but I
> > presume these could be excised.
> 
> Some mm-*.el files use quite often functions or constants with gnus-
> prefix.

Can you be more specific?  I did a grep, and the dependencies seem pretty
much restricted to a few files (e.g., mm-view.el); the most general mime
functionality seems pretty clean at first glance.

Note that some places the mm- stuff has code of the form:

  (if (or (eq foo ...) (eq foo ...) (eq foo 'gnus-magic-constant))
     ...)

But this sort of thing is perfectly fine -- it's not really a dependency at
all, because all it does is tweak the behavior specially for gnus in some
way.

> I would like to have a clean MIME library first.

Sure, and the mm- stuff seems like the right to start from.  It would
completely silly to reimplement all of it when mm- is pretty close to what
you want anyway.

Maybe I'm wrong, but if so, please give details, don't just assert it.

Thanks,

-Miles
-- 
I'm beginning to think that life is just one long Yoko Ono album; no rhyme
or reason, just a lot of incoherent shrieks and then it's over.  --Ian Wolff



  reply	other threads:[~2004-10-08 23:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-09-24  6:09 [rmail-mbox-branch]: expunge Alfred M. Szmidt
2004-09-24  7:16 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-09-24  8:21   ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2004-09-24  9:23     ` Kim F. Storm
2004-09-24 12:03       ` Paul Michael Reilly
2004-09-25  7:08       ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-03 10:40         ` Alexander Pohoyda
2004-10-04 15:18           ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-06 21:38             ` [rmail-mbox-branch]: mail-utils Alexander Pohoyda
2004-10-06 21:47               ` Miles Bader
2004-10-08 23:34                 ` Alexander Pohoyda
2004-10-08 23:47                   ` Miles Bader [this message]
2004-10-09 16:04                     ` Alexander Pohoyda
2004-10-09 17:12                       ` Stefan
2004-10-09 18:15                         ` Alexander Pohoyda
2004-10-09 18:20                           ` Miles Bader
2004-10-09 21:02                             ` Alexander Pohoyda
2004-10-09 21:10                               ` Miles Bader
2004-10-09 21:19                                 ` Miles Bader
2004-10-10 15:15                                   ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-10 22:58                                     ` Miles Bader
2004-10-11 16:45                                       ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-12  2:09                                         ` Miles Bader
2004-10-12 14:42                                         ` Juri Linkov
2004-10-12 15:03                                           ` Miles Bader
2004-10-12 16:05                                             ` Syncing Gnus with Emacs and back (was: [rmail-mbox-branch]: mail-utils) Reiner Steib
2004-10-13  1:26                                               ` Syncing Gnus with Emacs and back Miles Bader
2004-10-13 20:21                                                 ` Reiner Steib
2004-10-13 22:51                                                   ` Miles Bader
2004-10-14  7:47                                                     ` Miles Bader
2004-10-13 14:43                                           ` [rmail-mbox-branch]: mail-utils Richard Stallman
2004-10-09 19:02                           ` Stefan
2004-10-09 20:40                             ` Alexander Pohoyda
2004-10-11 10:36                       ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-08 16:06               ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-08 23:17                 ` Alexander Pohoyda
2004-10-10 15:16                   ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-10 23:50                     ` Alexander Pohoyda
2004-10-11 16:45                       ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-11 19:01                         ` Alexander Pohoyda
2004-10-12  8:57                           ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-12 16:12                             ` Alexander Pohoyda
2004-10-13 14:42                               ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-13 18:16 ` how-many/count-matches for non-interactive use Alexander Pohoyda
2004-10-15  0:26   ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-15  6:28     ` Alexander Pohoyda
2004-10-15 12:22       ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-15 15:30         ` Alexander Pohoyda
2004-10-16 13:52           ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-16 21:49             ` Alexander Pohoyda
2004-10-15 12:54     ` Stefan
2004-10-16 13:51       ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-16 18:41         ` Stefan Monnier
2004-10-16 22:00           ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-17 15:19             ` Stefan Monnier
2004-10-17 20:53               ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-17 21:44                 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-10-18  8:39                 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-18 13:59                 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-19  1:58                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-19  2:08                     ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-19 10:29                     ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-19 17:17                       ` Alexander Pohoyda
2004-10-20 12:01                         ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-19 16:46                     ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-19 22:08                       ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-21  1:45                         ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-21  3:22                           ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-20  1:14                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-20  1:35                         ` David Kastrup
2004-10-20 13:28                         ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-10-20  1:27                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-21  1:45                         ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-21  3:08                           ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-22 10:47                             ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-22 12:54                               ` Convert keyboard macros to Lisp (was: how-many/count-matches for non-interactive use) Juri Linkov
2004-10-23 13:54                                 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-22 17:35                               ` how-many/count-matches for non-interactive use Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-22 22:22                               ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-23  1:53                                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-23 11:32                                 ` John Paul Wallington
2004-10-23 18:49                                 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-23 20:36                                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-24 17:09                                     ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-26  3:09                                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-26  8:19                                         ` Kim F. Storm
2004-11-02  8:53                                         ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-24  2:31                                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-24 17:09                                     ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-25  1:53                                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-26  9:05                                         ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-25  2:53                                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-26  9:04                                         ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-25  3:08                                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-24 17:09                                     ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-23 18:49                                 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-25 14:04                                   ` Ken Manheimer
2004-10-27 10:49                                     ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-28  4:39                                     ` Ken Manheimer
2004-11-02 15:48                                       ` Ken Manheimer
2004-11-07  3:37                                         ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-23 18:49                                 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-23 19:53                                   ` John Paul Wallington
2004-10-23 18:49                                 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-21 22:13                           ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-23  4:48                             ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-23 16:03                               ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-18  8:32               ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-17 16:07           ` Richard Stallman

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