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From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord)
To: Achim Gratz <Stromeko@nexgo.de>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Using Org as the source format to generate org.texi
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2018 20:07:57 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87vae3zobm.fsf@russet.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fu59qhbd.fsf@Rainer.invalid> (Achim Gratz's message of "Fri, 09 Mar 2018 18:39:34 +0100")

Achim Gratz <Stromeko@nexgo.de> writes:

> Glenn Morris writes:
>> Note that this will make info generation depend on the existence of
>> src/emacs, when it was previously independent.
>
> Well, you could certainly define a separate Emacs instance to be used
> for the generation of the documentation unless you do a full greenfield
> bootstrap.

I think that's not a good idea, but I don't think it's necessary. Having
info dependent on src/emacs might slow the build somewhat. It's easiest
enough to test.



>> Also, if any other manual made the same change, it would prevent
>> bootstrapping Emacs without Org present (eg if the idea to include elpa
>> packages in Emacs releases ever goes anywhere, and it's desired to stop
>> duplicating Org in the Emacs repo; an idea which still makes complete
>> sense to me).
>>
>> (Just trying to list some items relevant to the "other tweaking" part.)
>
> I'd say that it just changes the way how the bootstrap is done, I don't
> yet see it preventing anything.  The same line of argumentation needs to
> be followed for the tarball generation.


As it happens I have a version of this now. It would lead to the
slightly strange situation that the build would refer to org-mode
functions which are not actually hosted in the repo. So, it would mean
that you could not build Emacs from a clean clone of the Emacs repo
without access to the ELPA repo (i.e. a local clone).

In practice, I suspect this would not be a huge issue.

Phil



  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-10 20:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-06 18:04 Using Org as the source format to generate org.texi Bastien
2018-03-06 20:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-03-06 20:24   ` Kaushal Modi
2018-03-06 21:54   ` Achim Gratz
2018-03-07  0:22   ` Bastien
2018-03-07 17:43     ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-07 17:52       ` Kaushal Modi
2018-03-08 10:04         ` Bastien Guerry
2018-03-08  7:28       ` Michael Albinus
2018-03-08 10:06         ` Bastien Guerry
2018-03-08 10:13       ` Bastien Guerry
2018-03-07 17:39   ` Glenn Morris
2018-03-07 22:57   ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-09 11:30     ` Bastien
2018-03-10 21:26     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-03-11  3:40       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-11 14:59       ` Michael Albinus
2018-03-11 18:13         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-03-11 23:26       ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-12 14:07         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-03-12 15:51           ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-12 16:42             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-03-12 17:32               ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-12 17:57                 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-03-12 20:16                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-12 21:37                     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-03-13 15:55                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-13 17:24                         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-03-13 17:43                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-13 21:37                             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-04-14 17:10                         ` @key{...} mis-use (was: Using Org as the source format to generate org.texi) Nicolas Goaziou
2018-04-19  9:22                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-06 21:30 ` Using Org as the source format to generate org.texi Paul Eggert
2018-03-07  0:19   ` Bastien
2018-03-07  1:08     ` Paul Eggert
2018-03-07  7:33       ` Achim Gratz
2018-03-09 17:52         ` Achim Gratz
2018-03-09 18:02           ` Paul Eggert
2018-03-09 18:23             ` Achim Gratz
2018-03-07 17:41       ` Glenn Morris
2018-03-09 11:19         ` Phillip Lord
2018-03-12 17:12           ` Glenn Morris
2018-03-09 17:39         ` Achim Gratz
2018-03-10 20:07           ` Phillip Lord [this message]
2018-03-11  3:00             ` Paul Eggert
2018-03-11  3:55               ` Stefan Monnier
2018-03-11 21:46                 ` Phillip Lord
2018-03-12 21:04             ` Radon Rosborough
2018-03-13  9:10               ` Phillip Lord
2018-03-13 12:29                 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-03-13 16:47                   ` Phillip Lord
2018-04-14 19:15 ` Joshua Branson

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