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From: Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca
Subject: Re: Using Org as the source format to generate org.texi
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 18:57:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tvtlb2j4.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83h8plrygn.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 12 Mar 2018 19:32:56 +0200")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

> I meant @key alone (that's why above I said "outside @kbd").  What
> should happen with @kbd{@key{...}} is under debate, and I don't think
> it's anywhere as important as supporting @key conveniently.  AFAIK,
> currently Org doesn't support @key, or at least all of its instances
> in the Org's Texinfo manual were dropped when converting to Org.

{{{kbd(...)}}} is both @kbd{...} and @key{...}.

Anyway, it seems you did not answer to any of my questions. Or I may be
misunderstanding, of course. Currently, {{{kbd(TAB)}}} is translated as
@kbd{@key{TAB}}. Would it be better if it became @key{TAB} instead? Or
is "supporting @key conveniently" something else?

> It's up to you, but IMO underlining is not really appropriate.  New
> terminology should stand out like it does in other typesetting
> systems, and slanted typeface does a good job in this case.
>
>> Org -> LaTeX and Org -> Texinfo -> LaTeX are going to produce different
>> results and there is little hope they can converge at some point.
>> I suggest to not bother too much about this.
>
> That's not what bothers me.

Well, it seems to be, really. _text_ underlines "text" in other export
back-ends than Texinfo. In Texinfo, it would become @dfn{...}. So, what
apparently bothers you is the "Org -> LaTeX" or "Org -> HTML" both
underline text when Texinfo makes it a definition. However _..._ is
a definition only in Texinfo. Therefore, e.g., "Org -> LaTeX" is going
to be different than "Org -> Texinfo -> LaTeX".

In any case, let's forget about this, it was just an idea. One can still
define and use {{{dfn(...)}}} when needed.



  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-12 17:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-06 18:04 Using Org as the source format to generate org.texi Bastien
2018-03-06 20:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-03-06 20:24   ` Kaushal Modi
2018-03-06 21:54   ` Achim Gratz
2018-03-07  0:22   ` Bastien
2018-03-07 17:43     ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-07 17:52       ` Kaushal Modi
2018-03-08 10:04         ` Bastien Guerry
2018-03-08  7:28       ` Michael Albinus
2018-03-08 10:06         ` Bastien Guerry
2018-03-08 10:13       ` Bastien Guerry
2018-03-07 17:39   ` Glenn Morris
2018-03-07 22:57   ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-09 11:30     ` Bastien
2018-03-10 21:26     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-03-11  3:40       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-11 14:59       ` Michael Albinus
2018-03-11 18:13         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-03-11 23:26       ` Richard Stallman
2018-03-12 14:07         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-03-12 15:51           ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-12 16:42             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-03-12 17:32               ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-12 17:57                 ` Nicolas Goaziou [this message]
2018-03-12 20:16                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-12 21:37                     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-03-13 15:55                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-13 17:24                         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-03-13 17:43                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-13 21:37                             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-04-14 17:10                         ` @key{...} mis-use (was: Using Org as the source format to generate org.texi) Nicolas Goaziou
2018-04-19  9:22                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-06 21:30 ` Using Org as the source format to generate org.texi Paul Eggert
2018-03-07  0:19   ` Bastien
2018-03-07  1:08     ` Paul Eggert
2018-03-07  7:33       ` Achim Gratz
2018-03-09 17:52         ` Achim Gratz
2018-03-09 18:02           ` Paul Eggert
2018-03-09 18:23             ` Achim Gratz
2018-03-07 17:41       ` Glenn Morris
2018-03-09 11:19         ` Phillip Lord
2018-03-12 17:12           ` Glenn Morris
2018-03-09 17:39         ` Achim Gratz
2018-03-10 20:07           ` Phillip Lord
2018-03-11  3:00             ` Paul Eggert
2018-03-11  3:55               ` Stefan Monnier
2018-03-11 21:46                 ` Phillip Lord
2018-03-12 21:04             ` Radon Rosborough
2018-03-13  9:10               ` Phillip Lord
2018-03-13 12:29                 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-03-13 16:47                   ` Phillip Lord
2018-04-14 19:15 ` Joshua Branson

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