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From: "Basil L. Contovounesios" <contovob@tcd.ie>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: master f51f963: Fix some side-effecting uses of make-text-button
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2020 14:50:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87v9k5mxj4.fsf@tcd.ie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvv9k5smqa.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Fri, 05 Jun 2020 09:02:54 -0400")

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>> As Paul said, not quite - it has historically modified its first
>> argument by placing properties on it.  If you look at the line preceding
>> this diff hunk you'll see a call to copy-sequence.
>>
>> My reasons for making this particular change are:
>> 0. Since Emacs 24.4, make-text-button has returned its modified first
>>    argument, so callers can use the value returned by make-text-button
>>    instead of calling it only for its side effects.
>> 1. This has now been reverted again, but for the last month,
>>    make-text-button returned a modified _copy_ of its argument, which
>>    meant that its side effects could no longer be relied upon.
>>
>> Either way, relying on its return value rather than its side effects
>> seems like the best style to stick with for now.
>
> So, IIUC `make-text-button` should ideally work functionally, but for
> historical reasons it works by side-effect.  What's the long term plan?
> Do we plan to live with the current side-effecting behavior, or do we
> plan to move to the "pure" functional behavior?
>
> If we could detect when a string-button is "used" (i.e. displayed or
> inserted into a buffer), then we could detect the use of the old
> side-effecting style (by checking if the string passed as argument had
> already been displayed/inserted elsewhere) and emit a good warning.

AFAIK all relevant future plans are being discussed in this thread:
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2020-06/msg00117.html

For almost a month make-text-button was pure wrt strings, but that's now
been reverted again for backward compatibility and until a new decision
is reached.

-- 
Basil



  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-05 13:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <20200604223058.1850020A26@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
2020-06-04 22:44   ` master f51f963: Fix some side-effecting uses of make-text-button Stefan Monnier
2020-06-05  0:58     ` Paul Eggert
2020-06-05  9:27       ` Pip Cet
2020-06-05 10:51     ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-06-05 12:46       ` Pip Cet
2020-06-05 13:51         ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-06-05 14:31           ` Pip Cet
2020-06-05 15:48             ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-06-05 18:17         ` Paul Eggert
2020-06-06  8:18           ` Pip Cet
2020-06-06 16:57             ` Drew Adams
2020-06-06 17:57               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-06-06 19:00                 ` Pip Cet
2020-06-06 19:49                   ` Paul Eggert
2020-06-06 20:23                     ` Drew Adams
2020-06-07  9:14                     ` Pip Cet
2020-06-06 22:14                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-06-07  1:40                     ` Paul Eggert
2020-06-07 15:24                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-06-07 23:42                         ` Paul Eggert
2020-06-07  9:31                     ` Pip Cet
2020-06-06 20:19                 ` Drew Adams
2020-06-06 17:54             ` Paul Eggert
2020-06-06 19:41               ` Pip Cet
2020-06-06 20:15                 ` Paul Eggert
2020-06-07  9:21                   ` Pip Cet
2020-06-07 23:37                     ` Paul Eggert
2020-06-06 20:11               ` Drew Adams
2020-06-06 22:16                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-06-06 23:27                   ` Drew Adams
2020-06-05 13:02       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-06-05 13:50         ` Basil L. Contovounesios [this message]
2020-06-06 19:09         ` Paul Eggert
2020-06-06 20:19           ` Drew Adams

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