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From: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>,
	"emacs-devel@gnu.org" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [External] : Re: master 927b885 1/3: Disable filtering of commands in M-x completion
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2021 11:33:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sg5toh2y.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <SA2PR10MB4474594B3C7157F60795E284F3869@SA2PR10MB4474.namprd10.prod.outlook.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Wed, 17 Feb 2021 22:18:00 +0000")

>> Also maybe a key to toggle filtering in the already active completion
>> (and a key to toggle sorting).
>
> For filtering, why toggle instead of cycle, or
> completion-choose a sort order?  I.e., why allow
> for only two choices?

I agree, cycling is better.

>> I'd like also to suggest to filter out
>> commands having "r" in their interactive specs - they signal
>> an error when the region is not active, so no need to show them.
>
> Are you sure they raise an error?
>
> (defun foo (&optional beg end)
>   (interactive "r")
>   (message "FOO"))

Yes, I'm sure.  'M-x foo RET' without an active region raises an error:

  command-execute: The mark is not active now

> I also think it's misleading to base filtering on
> an `interactive' form that uses a string.  That's
> inherently fragile/limiting.  It won't apply to a
> form that evaluates a sexp to provide the args.
> The resulting incoherence will confuse users.

This means that more complex interactive specs need
manual tagging using a new tag:

  (declare (predicate (use-region-p)))

>> Also filter out commands with "*" in read-only buffers.
>
> Same problem.  Relying on a string arg to `interactive'
> is not a great idea, I think.

Same tag:

  (declare (predicate (not buffer-read-only)))

>> `describe-command' is a very good idea for searching
>> and discovering commands.
>
> I mentioned that I defined that long ago.  But I'll
> also mention that `describe-function' with a prefix
> arg already gives you that behavior.  Oops!  Nope,
> that too is something I defined long ago in
> `help-fns+.el'.
>
> Similarly, I defined `describe-option', and a prefix
> arg to (my definition of) `describe-variable' limits
> choices to user options (like `describe-option').

Using a prefix arg for 'C-h f' and 'C-h v' to limit the list
of completions would be nice.

But I guess M-x can't use a prefix arg to limit completions?



  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-18  9:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20210217165944.26910.26583@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
     [not found] ` <20210217165946.030D420DFC@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
2021-02-17 19:27   ` master 927b885 1/3: Disable filtering of commands in M-x completion Stefan Kangas
2021-02-17 20:01     ` Juri Linkov
2021-02-17 22:18       ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-18  9:33         ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2021-02-18 16:25           ` Drew Adams
2021-02-18 17:22             ` Juri Linkov
2021-02-18 18:24               ` Drew Adams
2021-02-18 19:03                 ` Juri Linkov
2021-02-18 19:18                   ` Drew Adams
2021-02-18 19:35                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-18 19:47                   ` Drew Adams
2021-02-18 19:58                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-18 20:11                       ` Drew Adams
2021-02-18 20:22                       ` Drew Adams
2021-02-18 20:25                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-18 20:45                           ` Drew Adams
2021-02-19 13:17                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-19 17:53                               ` Drew Adams
2021-02-19 18:38                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-18 23:15                       ` martin rudalics
2021-02-18 23:32                         ` Drew Adams
2021-02-19  8:37                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-19 17:42                             ` Drew Adams
2021-02-18 19:38                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-18 19:49                   ` Drew Adams
2021-02-18 19:58                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-18 20:26                       ` Drew Adams
2021-02-17 20:04     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-17 20:31       ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-17 20:12     ` [External] : " Drew Adams

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