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From: Thien-Thi Nguyen <ttn@gnu.org>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Bidi reordering engine upgraded
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 12:27:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ppdr3sab.fsf@zigzag.favinet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8338an2jcd.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 17 Oct 2014 11:25:54 +0300")

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() Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
() Fri, 17 Oct 2014 11:25:54 +0300

   But there are W+1 pixels in a line that
   starts at X and ends at X+W. W+1, not W.

Exactly!  We have achieved identical conclusions from
reproducible observations!  Cool.

   >  | 1         2         3
   >  | 012345678901234567890123456789
   >  |           ***********
   >  |                     ^ out out damned dot!

   Count the stars, and you will see there are 11 of them,
   not 10.

Right -- that's what "11 *s" my message was meant to convey.
(No argument here from this pedant. :-D)

   Where did the 11th one come from, when we requested a
   width of 10?

It comes from the (deeply-reviled, IMNSHO) misdesign of
XDrawRectangle(3), which uses the word "width" in the
parameter name (and description), but is actually described
later to draw a rectangle whose width, as measured by pixels
rendered, is ‘width + 1’.  Yuck!  And that description is not
straightforward, but instead exposes, and thus requires the
reader to understand, the ‘PolyLine’ X protocol request, an
implementation detail.  Ugh!Ly!  [Insert more ranting here.]

Well, i'm starting to foam at the mouth re Xlib, which was
one of the motivations for scheming on the socket directly
(inducing other foamings, of course...), so i'll stop now.

   Why not just a single-pixel vertical line instead?

Wouldn't that lose the "hollow" look?  Also, depending on
choice of foreground (text) and cursor colors, that could
obscure the glyph completely.

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-10-17 10:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-15 14:51 Bidi reordering engine upgraded Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-15 15:22 ` Dmitry Antipov
2014-10-15 15:47   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-15 16:00     ` Dmitry Antipov
2014-10-15 16:31       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-15 17:28         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-15 17:50           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-16  3:55             ` Dmitry Antipov
2014-10-16  7:21               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-16  9:42                 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-10-16 10:15                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-16 13:27                     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-10-16 13:51                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-17  5:42                         ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-10-17  6:16                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-17  7:50                             ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-10-17  8:25                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-17 10:27                                 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen [this message]
2014-10-17 10:31                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-16  9:51                 ` Dmitry Antipov
2014-10-16 10:20                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-16 11:28                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-17  6:46                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-17 17:45                 ` Jan Djärv
2014-10-17 18:45                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-17 19:32                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-18 12:34                     ` Jan Djärv
2014-10-18 12:54                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-18 13:13                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-19 11:45                           ` Jan Djärv
2014-10-19 13:19                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-19 11:49                           ` Jan Djärv
2014-10-19 13:20                             ` Eli Zaretskii
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-10-17 11:12 grischka
2014-10-17 11:42 ` martin rudalics
2014-10-17 11:47   ` David Kastrup
2014-10-17 13:21   ` grischka
2014-10-17 13:30     ` Eli Zaretskii

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