() Eli Zaretskii () Fri, 17 Oct 2014 11:25:54 +0300 But there are W+1 pixels in a line that starts at X and ends at X+W. W+1, not W. Exactly! We have achieved identical conclusions from reproducible observations! Cool. > | 1 2 3 > | 012345678901234567890123456789 > | *********** > | ^ out out damned dot! Count the stars, and you will see there are 11 of them, not 10. Right -- that's what "11 *s" my message was meant to convey. (No argument here from this pedant. :-D) Where did the 11th one come from, when we requested a width of 10? It comes from the (deeply-reviled, IMNSHO) misdesign of XDrawRectangle(3), which uses the word "width" in the parameter name (and description), but is actually described later to draw a rectangle whose width, as measured by pixels rendered, is ‘width + 1’. Yuck! And that description is not straightforward, but instead exposes, and thus requires the reader to understand, the ‘PolyLine’ X protocol request, an implementation detail. Ugh!Ly! [Insert more ranting here.] Well, i'm starting to foam at the mouth re Xlib, which was one of the motivations for scheming on the socket directly (inducing other foamings, of course...), so i'll stop now. Why not just a single-pixel vertical line instead? Wouldn't that lose the "hollow" look? Also, depending on choice of foreground (text) and cursor colors, that could obscure the glyph completely. -- Thien-Thi Nguyen GPG key: 4C807502 (if you're human and you know it) read my lisp: (responsep (questions 'technical) (not (via 'mailing-list))) => nil