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From: Trey Peacock <gpg@treypeacock.com>
To: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
Cc: Morgan Smith <morgan.j.smith@outlook.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: PGTK-related misconceptions
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2022 23:02:08 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87pmlcad91.fsf@treypeacock.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mtghg0j6.fsf@yahoo.com>


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"Po Lu" <luangruo@yahoo.com> writes:

> Trey Peacock <gpg@treypeacock.com> writes:
>
>> Neither of the WMs I mentioned use GNOME Shell, but they do both use
>> wlroots. Looking into this, it seems that any wlroots based Wayland
>> compositor will use GDK_MOD4_MASK as Super. However, mutter (GNOME's
>> WM) uses GDK_SUPER_MASK. Rebuilding emacs with the below patch seems
>> to have fixed the issue. I'm not sure if there could be further
>> implications for pgtk_emacs_to_gtk_modifiers.
>
> GDK_MOD4_MASK is a real modifier.  GDK_SUPER_MASK is a "virtual
> modifier" mask.
>
> The entire point of that change was to rely on GDK to compute the
> correspondence between real modifiers and virtual modifiers instead of
> doing it ourselves, since a real modifier can mean any number of virtual
> modifiers and vice versa.

It does not seem to be a requirement of GTK 3.2 or XKB to send virtual
modifiers. The only compositor I have come across that actually sends a
virtual modifier is mutter/GNOME. Neither wlroots nor Weston, the
Wayland reference implementation, send them. I'm unsure about Plasma,
but I believe this highlights an issue with the development of pgtk, if
it is meant to be targeted towards wayland users it should be tested
against more than just one compositor.

> Hard-coding the meaning of GDK_MOD4_MASK would be a step backwards.

The experience of a user updating Emacs and realizing a key is no longer
recognized, without any notification or justification would also be a
step backwards.

> This seems to either be a bug in wlroots or GDK, so I suggest that a bug
> be filed with their developers.

I have spoken with devs of wlroots & wayland over IRC and they seem to
agree that it is not necessary. I don't mean to be adversarial but would
be happy to see this change amended to incorporate the entirety of
wayland compositors.

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-19 23:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-18 21:50 PGTK-related misconceptions Trey
2022-04-19  0:59 ` Po Lu
2022-04-19  3:28   ` Trey Peacock
2022-04-19  4:27     ` Po Lu
2022-04-19 23:02       ` Trey Peacock [this message]
2022-04-20  0:48         ` Po Lu
2022-04-20  2:33           ` Trey Peacock
2022-04-20  4:05             ` Po Lu
2022-07-25 21:18     ` Akira Kyle
2022-07-26  2:08       ` Po Lu
2022-07-26 12:10         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-07-26 12:35           ` Po Lu
2022-07-29 14:26             ` Stefan Monnier
2022-07-30  0:58               ` Po Lu
2022-07-26 21:36         ` Akira Kyle
2022-07-27  2:48           ` Po Lu
2022-07-27  8:34             ` Trey Peacock
2022-07-27  9:10               ` Po Lu
2022-07-27 13:45                 ` Trey Peacock
2022-07-27 13:52                   ` Po Lu
2022-07-28  1:39             ` Akira Kyle
2022-07-28  2:50               ` Po Lu
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-04-20  7:52 Trey Peacock
2022-04-20  8:25 ` Po Lu
2022-04-20 13:13   ` Brian Cully
     [not found] <DM5PR03MB3163BBCF9626AD3B88900011C5EE9@DM5PR03MB3163.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>
2022-04-15  2:29 ` Po Lu
2022-04-15  7:11   ` Byung-Hee HWANG
2022-04-15 16:24   ` Eric Abrahamsen
2022-04-18  5:18   ` Sean Whitton
2022-04-18  5:31     ` Po Lu
2022-04-18  5:43       ` Sean Whitton
2022-04-18  5:57         ` Po Lu
2022-04-18 18:27           ` Sean Whitton
2022-04-18 19:49           ` Jim Porter
2022-04-19  1:02             ` Po Lu
2022-04-19  2:46               ` Sean Whitton
2022-04-19  2:18             ` Tim Cross
2022-04-19  5:56               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-04-19  8:13                 ` Tim Cross
2022-04-19 10:32                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-04-19  9:10   ` Dirk-Jan C. Binnema
2022-04-19 10:42     ` Po Lu
2022-04-19 11:53     ` Phil Sainty
2022-04-19 13:58       ` Sean Whitton
2022-04-20  3:29         ` Phil Sainty
2022-04-20  4:48           ` Stefan Monnier
2022-04-19 16:51       ` Yuri Khan
2022-04-22  5:44         ` Pankaj Jangid

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