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From: Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org, Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
Subject: Re: Adding missing C-x 5 C-j and C-x t C-j commands
Date: Mon, 23 May 2022 06:54:20 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o7zowe0j.fsf@athena.silentflame.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <791EABD2-57A9-4C71-9BB3-88F691CE13DF@gnu.org>

Hello,

On Mon 23 May 2022 at 12:16pm +03, Eli Zaretskii wrote:

> I don't think we agreed to have full symmetry between C-x 4 and C-x 5.  I see no special reason for 100% consistency here.  Simple key sequences are at a premium, and we shouldn't usurp them just because we can.
>
> Any user who wants a C-x 5 binding for dired-jump can have such a binding for him or herself.  But why do this by default for everyone?

I certainly agree with you that we shouldn't bind things into C-x 5
willy-nilly.  In this case, however, it's not just because we can, but
because it makes things consistent with C-x 4 in a way that's helpful.
As Juri has determined, it's almost the only one that doesn't match
right now.

Here's a different way to look at it.  Given the existing symmetry
between C-x 4 and C-x 5, if we later bind anything *other* than
dired-jump-other-window to C-x 5 C-j, we would be introducing a special
exception that users would have to remember.  That is, the existing
symmetry has already implicitly semi-reserved C-x 5 C-j for
dired-jump-other-window, by giving us a strong reason not to put
anything else there.

So, given that I'm unlikely to be the only person who has naturally
tried to reach for C-x 5 C-j, let's make the implicit semi-reservation
explicit.  This command is as useful as C-x 4 C-j.

-- 
Sean Whitton



  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-23 13:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-22 19:53 Adding missing C-x 5 C-j and C-x t C-j commands Sean Whitton
2022-05-23  2:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-23  4:57   ` Sean Whitton
2022-05-23  4:59     ` Sean Whitton
2022-05-23  7:56       ` Juri Linkov
2022-05-23  9:16         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-23 13:54           ` Sean Whitton [this message]
2022-05-23 14:07             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-23 20:52               ` Sean Whitton
2022-05-23 13:35         ` Sean Whitton
2022-05-23 12:26     ` Stefan Monnier
2022-05-23 16:52       ` Juri Linkov
2022-06-07 20:17         ` Howard Melman
2022-06-08  2:29           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-08  6:40           ` Juri Linkov
2022-06-08 12:27             ` Howard Melman
2022-06-08 16:08               ` Juri Linkov
2022-06-08 19:17                 ` Howard Melman
2022-06-09  2:41                   ` Howard Melman
2022-06-09  6:44                     ` Juri Linkov
2022-06-09  5:02                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-09  6:42                     ` Juri Linkov

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