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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>,
	Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name>
Subject: Re: Adding missing C-x 5 C-j and C-x t C-j commands
Date: Mon, 23 May 2022 12:16:02 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <791EABD2-57A9-4C71-9BB3-88F691CE13DF@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86h75g1xuc.fsf@mail.linkov.net>

On May 23, 2022 10:56:47 AM GMT+03:00, Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net> wrote:
> >> If we miss some of them out because we've since added C-x 5 5,
> >> we are asking the user to keep track of which things under C-x 4 have
> >> bindings under C-x 5 and which don't -- one has to remember that C-x 4
> >> C-j exists but C-x 5 C-j doesn't.
> >
> > I meant: one has to remember that C-x 5 p and C-x 5 d exist but
> > C-x 5 C-j doesn't.
> 
> For new commands that don't have a C-x 4 binding
> it makes sense to use C-x 5 5, but if a binding
> already exists in the C-x 4 keymap, it could be synced
> with the C-x 5 keymap for consistency.  And indeed
> dired-jump-other-frame is missing among existing keys:
> 
> C-x 4 C-f find-file-other-window             C-x 5 C-f find-file-other-frame
> C-x 4 C-j dired-jump-other-window            !!!
> C-x 4 C-o display-buffer                     C-x 5 C-o display-buffer-other-frame
> C-x 4 .   xref-find-definitions-other-window C-x 5 .   xref-find-definitions-other-frame
> C-x 4 0   kill-buffer-and-window             C-x 5 0   delete-frame
> C-x 4 4   other-window-prefix                C-x 5 5   other-frame-prefix
> C-x 4 a   add-change-log-entry-other-window
> C-x 4 b   switch-to-buffer-other-window      C-x 5 b   switch-to-buffer-other-frame
> C-x 4 c   clone-indirect-buffer-other-window C-x 5 c   clone-frame
> C-x 4 d   dired-other-window                 C-x 5 d   dired-other-frame
> C-x 4 f   find-file-other-window             C-x 5 f   find-file-other-frame
> C-x 4 m   compose-mail-other-window          C-x 5 m   compose-mail-other-frame
> C-x 4 p   project-other-window-command       C-x 5 p   project-other-frame-command
> C-x 4 r   find-file-read-only-other-window   C-x 5 r   find-file-read-only-other-frame
> 
> 

I don't think we agreed to have full symmetry between C-x 4 and C-x 5.  I see no special reason for 100% consistency here.  Simple key sequences are at a premium, and we shouldn't usurp them just because we can.

Any user who wants a C-x 5 binding for dired-jump can have such a binding for him or herself.  But why do this by default for everyone?



  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-23  9:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-22 19:53 Adding missing C-x 5 C-j and C-x t C-j commands Sean Whitton
2022-05-23  2:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-23  4:57   ` Sean Whitton
2022-05-23  4:59     ` Sean Whitton
2022-05-23  7:56       ` Juri Linkov
2022-05-23  9:16         ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2022-05-23 13:54           ` Sean Whitton
2022-05-23 14:07             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-23 20:52               ` Sean Whitton
2022-05-23 13:35         ` Sean Whitton
2022-05-23 12:26     ` Stefan Monnier
2022-05-23 16:52       ` Juri Linkov
2022-06-07 20:17         ` Howard Melman
2022-06-08  2:29           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-08  6:40           ` Juri Linkov
2022-06-08 12:27             ` Howard Melman
2022-06-08 16:08               ` Juri Linkov
2022-06-08 19:17                 ` Howard Melman
2022-06-09  2:41                   ` Howard Melman
2022-06-09  6:44                     ` Juri Linkov
2022-06-09  5:02                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-09  6:42                     ` Juri Linkov

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