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From: Oliver Scholz <alkibiades@gmx.de>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Customizing fontsets
Date: Sat, 03 May 2003 02:33:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87isssswcg.fsf@ID-87814.user.dfncis.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87llxqorkr.fsf@gnu.org> (Alex Schroeder's message of "Fri, 02 May 2003 07:17:24 +0200")

Alex Schroeder <alex@gnu.org> writes:

> Oliver Scholz <alkibiades@gmx.de> writes:
[...]
>> Currently I wonder what the default values should be that a
>> "fontset-widget" should present to the user. The return-value of
>> `fontset-info' is simply to large, I think. It seems weird that a user
>> should specify a fontset covering two or three charsets in her .emacs
>> or in .Xresources -- and is confronted with a list of dozens of
>> charsets then, when she wants to customize it later.
>
> I don't understand.  When you run M-x customize-fontset RET
> fontset-default RET, you expect to see a widget that explains the
> value of "fontset-default", and offer a way to change it.  Thus, all
> the info returned by (fontset-info "fontset-default") must be visible
> and editable at some point.[...]

To give an example: I have the following in my .emacs (simplified):

(create-fontset-from-fontset-spec "\
-b&h-lucidatypewriter-medium-r-*-*-*-100-*-*-*-*-fontset-egoge,\
mule-unicode-0100-24ff:-*-fixed-medium-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso10646-1")

Now, if I'd do `M-x custimize-fontset RET fontset-egoge RET', I'd
expect to see something like this:


Family: [b&h-lucidatypwriter                                      ]

[INS] [DEL] Charset:  [mule-unicode-0100-24ff                     ]
            Family:   [fixed-medium                               ]
            Registry: [iso10646-1
[INS]


But if we create this widget based on `fontset-info', I'd see a list
of dozens of charsets and character ranges. Have a look at it with 
`M-x describe-fontset RET fontset-egoge RET'.

I'd say that this would be surprising, if not confusing for users
that are not familiar with Emacs' concepts of charsets and
fontsets.

    Oliver
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      parent reply	other threads:[~2003-05-03  0:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-04-25 16:12 Cyrillic vs UTF-8 Simon Josefsson
2003-04-25 16:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-04-25 17:09   ` Simon Josefsson
2003-04-25 22:39     ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-04-26  8:11     ` Kenichi Handa
2003-04-26 12:25       ` Simon Josefsson
2003-04-28  9:18         ` Kenichi Handa
2003-04-28 11:11           ` Simon Josefsson
2003-04-26 16:21       ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2003-04-26 16:27         ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2003-04-28  4:38       ` Richard Stallman
2003-05-01  8:27         ` Kenichi Handa
2003-05-02  7:06           ` Richard Stallman
2003-05-02 21:51             ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-05-03 13:37               ` Juanma Barranquero
2003-05-03 19:04                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-05-04 13:03               ` Richard Stallman
2003-05-04 11:04           ` Dave Love
2003-05-04 12:01             ` Simon Josefsson
2003-05-04 17:13               ` Dave Love
2003-05-04 18:03                 ` Simon Josefsson
2003-05-05  8:47             ` Kenichi Handa
2003-04-26 13:44     ` Richard Stallman
2003-04-26 14:10       ` Simon Josefsson
2003-04-28 21:49     ` Stefan Monnier
2003-04-28 22:29       ` Simon Josefsson
2003-04-29 13:49         ` Stefan Monnier
2003-04-29 14:27           ` Simon Josefsson
2003-04-30  4:42             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2003-04-30  5:43           ` Richard Stallman
2003-05-19  0:40       ` Kenichi Handa
2003-05-19  0:52         ` Stefan Monnier
2003-05-19  2:31           ` Kenichi Handa
2003-05-19 13:28             ` Stefan Monnier
2003-05-19 13:49               ` Stefan Monnier
2003-04-25 16:54 ` Simon Josefsson
2003-04-26  3:55   ` Implementing charset-aware X font names [was: Cyrillic vs UTF-8] Stephen J. Turnbull
2003-04-28 11:09     ` Kenichi Handa
2003-04-28 12:27       ` Implementing charset-aware X font names Stephen J. Turnbull
2003-05-01 11:13         ` Kenichi Handa
2003-05-01 14:14           ` Alex Schroeder
2003-05-01 23:16             ` Kenichi Handa
2003-04-26  7:59   ` Cyrillic vs UTF-8 Kenichi Handa
2003-04-26 12:14     ` Simon Josefsson
2003-05-01  7:20       ` Kenichi Handa
2003-05-01 14:06         ` Alex Schroeder
2003-05-01 18:03         ` Customizing fontsets (was: Cyrillic vs UTF-8) Oliver Scholz
2003-05-02  5:17           ` Customizing fontsets Alex Schroeder
2003-05-02  6:32             ` Kenichi Handa
2003-05-02 13:25               ` Stefan Monnier
2003-05-03  0:40               ` Oliver Scholz
2003-05-03  1:50                 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-05-03 12:08                   ` Oliver Scholz
2003-05-07  1:22                     ` Kenichi Handa
2003-05-03  0:33             ` Oliver Scholz [this message]

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