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From: dick <dick.r.chiang@gmail.com>
To: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Allowing point to be outside the window?
Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2021 09:17:41 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fsr8jvy2.fsf@dick> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r1astsle.fsf@yahoo.com> (Po Lu's message of "Sat, 04 Dec 2021 21:19:57 +0800")

> Why FUD?  What is the fear, and where is the uncertainty and doubt?

When you bypass large state-heavy stanzas via "if allow-point-outside"
in central functions like try_cursor_movement() and redisplay_window(),
people (not you or EZ apparently) get scared.

What will likely happen is you'll palm off the new flag
"allow-point-outside" (i.e., !keep-point-visible), which will default
off such that none of your state changes will ever take.  You will be
content with having tallied additional slocs.

The not-so-hidden cost of your change however is obfuscation, which I
suppose is par for the course in the emacs code base.

> just as I will with my interests

You gotta do what you gotta do.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-12-04 14:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <87ilwd7zaq.fsf.ref@yahoo.com>
2021-11-28  3:07 ` Allowing point to be outside the window? Po Lu
2021-11-28  8:03   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-28  8:13     ` Po Lu
2021-11-28  8:41       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-28 12:47         ` Po Lu
2021-11-28 12:58           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-28 13:10             ` Po Lu
2021-11-28 13:44               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-29  1:47                 ` Po Lu
2021-11-29 13:00                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-29 13:22                     ` Po Lu
2021-11-29 13:43                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-30  1:40                         ` Po Lu
2021-11-30 16:49                           ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-11-30 17:26                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-30 18:10                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-30 18:32                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-30 18:49                                 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-30 19:21                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-30 20:57                                     ` Drew Adams
2021-11-30 23:41                                 ` Daniel Martín
2021-12-01  8:30                                   ` martin rudalics
2021-12-01  9:10                                     ` Juri Linkov
2021-11-30 23:20                               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-12-04 11:18                           ` Po Lu
2021-12-04 12:55                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-04 13:13                               ` Po Lu
2021-12-04 16:24                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-05  0:40                                   ` Po Lu
2021-12-04 17:15                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-05  0:45                                   ` Po Lu
2021-12-05  9:03                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-06  2:11                                       ` Po Lu
2021-12-06 14:13                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-07  2:18                                           ` Po Lu
2021-12-07 13:42                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-08  1:17                                               ` Po Lu
2021-12-08 17:14                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-09  0:23                                                   ` Po Lu
2021-12-09  8:02                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-09  9:22                                                       ` Po Lu
2021-12-09 10:02                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-25  6:45                                                       ` Po Lu
2021-12-25  7:07                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-06  7:22                                                         ` Po Lu
2022-02-06 11:34                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-06 11:46                                                             ` Po Lu
2022-02-06 11:55                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-06 12:21                                                                 ` Po Lu
2022-02-06 16:15                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-07  1:21                                                                     ` Po Lu
2022-02-07  7:21                                                                       ` Po Lu
2022-02-07 13:41                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-07 13:57                                                                           ` Po Lu
2022-02-07 14:24                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-08  0:58                                                                               ` Po Lu
2022-02-08 17:08                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-09  1:57                                                                                   ` Po Lu
2022-02-10 13:04                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-10 13:09                                                                                       ` Po Lu
2021-12-09 11:45                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-09 12:19                                           ` Po Lu
2021-12-09 12:45                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-04 13:00                             ` dick
2021-12-04 13:14                               ` tomas
2021-12-04 13:19                               ` Po Lu
2021-12-04 13:41                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-05  0:46                                   ` Po Lu
2021-12-05  7:12                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-05  7:16                                       ` Po Lu
2021-12-05  8:48                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-05  9:15                                           ` Po Lu
2021-12-05  9:25                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-05  9:31                                               ` Po Lu
2021-12-05 10:34                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-05 10:37                                                   ` Po Lu
2021-12-04 14:17                                 ` dick [this message]
2021-12-04 16:33                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-04 17:13                                     ` dick
2021-12-05  0:48                                       ` Po Lu
2021-11-28 14:03       ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-11-28 14:28         ` Eric S Fraga
2021-11-28 14:39           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-28 16:55             ` Eric S Fraga
2021-11-28 14:42         ` dick
2021-11-28 15:39         ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-11-28 15:45           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-28 17:14             ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-11-28 16:59           ` Eric S Fraga
2021-11-28 17:30             ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-11-29  0:34             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-11-29  0:34         ` Po Lu
2021-12-08  1:45           ` John Ankarström
2021-12-08 12:45             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-08 13:33               ` John Ankarström
2021-12-08 13:38                 ` Po Lu
2021-12-08 13:52                   ` John Ankarström
2021-12-08 14:26                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-08 16:57                   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-12-08 19:29                     ` Yuri Khan
2021-12-09  0:16                     ` Po Lu
2021-12-08 19:21                 ` Rudolf Schlatte
2021-12-08 19:56                   ` Juri Linkov
2021-12-08 20:05                     ` André A. Gomes
2021-12-08 20:31                     ` Linux console scrollback [ Was: Allowing point to be outside the window? ] Alan Mackenzie
2021-12-09  0:17                   ` Allowing point to be outside the window? Po Lu
2021-12-08 22:25                 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-12-08 23:17                   ` John Ankarström
     [not found] <9603C99D-97E7-4285-A1C1-022191B6F5CC@univie.ac.at>
2021-12-08 18:43 ` Konrad Podczeck
2021-12-08 20:47   ` John Ankarström
2021-12-09 15:34 Konrad Podczeck

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