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From: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Allowing point to be outside the window?
Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2021 17:22:52 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lf0ub09f.fsf@yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83mtlaurxj.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 09 Dec 2021 10:02:32 +0200")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

> Now, window-start is a marker, so theoretically we could use the same
> marker with the buffer position updated due to the insertion, in which
> case the stuff displayed in the window may stay unchanged.

I don't know, because I can't think of what other programs do in this
situation, as they generally don't have commands that insert text
outside the visible area.

Perhaps someone else can chime in at this point.

> But is this what users will expect?  And if this is not what users
> expect, i.e. if we will need to recompute window-start anew in that
> case, we cannot use the "recenter around point" fallback.  Likewise
> with bringing point into the view: will this be what users expect in
> the described situation?

I see what you mean now.  We could have a user option that says one of
the following:

  - If the text before the window start changes, use the current value
    of the window start marker.

  - If the text before the window start changes, bring point into view.

  - If the text before the window start changes, try to move window
    start so that point appears in the middle of the window.  If that is
    not possible, move window start to the location that will cause
    point to appear closest to the middle of the window.

BTW, how would you recommend to determine inside redisplay whether the
text before the start of the window has changed?

Thanks.



  reply	other threads:[~2021-12-09  9:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <87ilwd7zaq.fsf.ref@yahoo.com>
2021-11-28  3:07 ` Allowing point to be outside the window? Po Lu
2021-11-28  8:03   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-28  8:13     ` Po Lu
2021-11-28  8:41       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-28 12:47         ` Po Lu
2021-11-28 12:58           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-28 13:10             ` Po Lu
2021-11-28 13:44               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-29  1:47                 ` Po Lu
2021-11-29 13:00                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-29 13:22                     ` Po Lu
2021-11-29 13:43                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-30  1:40                         ` Po Lu
2021-11-30 16:49                           ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-11-30 17:26                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-30 18:10                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-30 18:32                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-30 18:49                                 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-30 19:21                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-30 20:57                                     ` Drew Adams
2021-11-30 23:41                                 ` Daniel Martín
2021-12-01  8:30                                   ` martin rudalics
2021-12-01  9:10                                     ` Juri Linkov
2021-11-30 23:20                               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-12-04 11:18                           ` Po Lu
2021-12-04 12:55                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-04 13:13                               ` Po Lu
2021-12-04 16:24                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-05  0:40                                   ` Po Lu
2021-12-04 17:15                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-05  0:45                                   ` Po Lu
2021-12-05  9:03                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-06  2:11                                       ` Po Lu
2021-12-06 14:13                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-07  2:18                                           ` Po Lu
2021-12-07 13:42                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-08  1:17                                               ` Po Lu
2021-12-08 17:14                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-09  0:23                                                   ` Po Lu
2021-12-09  8:02                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-09  9:22                                                       ` Po Lu [this message]
2021-12-09 10:02                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-25  6:45                                                       ` Po Lu
2021-12-25  7:07                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-06  7:22                                                         ` Po Lu
2022-02-06 11:34                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-06 11:46                                                             ` Po Lu
2022-02-06 11:55                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-06 12:21                                                                 ` Po Lu
2022-02-06 16:15                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-07  1:21                                                                     ` Po Lu
2022-02-07  7:21                                                                       ` Po Lu
2022-02-07 13:41                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-07 13:57                                                                           ` Po Lu
2022-02-07 14:24                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-08  0:58                                                                               ` Po Lu
2022-02-08 17:08                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-09  1:57                                                                                   ` Po Lu
2022-02-10 13:04                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-10 13:09                                                                                       ` Po Lu
2021-12-09 11:45                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-09 12:19                                           ` Po Lu
2021-12-09 12:45                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-04 13:00                             ` dick
2021-12-04 13:14                               ` tomas
2021-12-04 13:19                               ` Po Lu
2021-12-04 13:41                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-05  0:46                                   ` Po Lu
2021-12-05  7:12                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-05  7:16                                       ` Po Lu
2021-12-05  8:48                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-05  9:15                                           ` Po Lu
2021-12-05  9:25                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-05  9:31                                               ` Po Lu
2021-12-05 10:34                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-05 10:37                                                   ` Po Lu
2021-12-04 14:17                                 ` dick
2021-12-04 16:33                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-04 17:13                                     ` dick
2021-12-05  0:48                                       ` Po Lu
2021-11-28 14:03       ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-11-28 14:28         ` Eric S Fraga
2021-11-28 14:39           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-28 16:55             ` Eric S Fraga
2021-11-28 14:42         ` dick
2021-11-28 15:39         ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-11-28 15:45           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-28 17:14             ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-11-28 16:59           ` Eric S Fraga
2021-11-28 17:30             ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-11-29  0:34             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-11-29  0:34         ` Po Lu
2021-12-08  1:45           ` John Ankarström
2021-12-08 12:45             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-08 13:33               ` John Ankarström
2021-12-08 13:38                 ` Po Lu
2021-12-08 13:52                   ` John Ankarström
2021-12-08 14:26                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-08 16:57                   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-12-08 19:29                     ` Yuri Khan
2021-12-09  0:16                     ` Po Lu
2021-12-08 19:21                 ` Rudolf Schlatte
2021-12-08 19:56                   ` Juri Linkov
2021-12-08 20:05                     ` André A. Gomes
2021-12-08 20:31                     ` Linux console scrollback [ Was: Allowing point to be outside the window? ] Alan Mackenzie
2021-12-09  0:17                   ` Allowing point to be outside the window? Po Lu
2021-12-08 22:25                 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-12-08 23:17                   ` John Ankarström
     [not found] <9603C99D-97E7-4285-A1C1-022191B6F5CC@univie.ac.at>
2021-12-08 18:43 ` Konrad Podczeck
2021-12-08 20:47   ` John Ankarström
2021-12-09 15:34 Konrad Podczeck

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