From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs 29.3 released
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2024 09:27:40 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87edbwdqpv.fsf@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86o7b0iy5i.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 26 Mar 2024 21:35:53 +0200")
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
Hi Eli,
>> It would be possible. I could change the Tramp version in the release
>> branch to the next anticipated release number. So I could change it now
>> to "2.6.3.29.4". However, I see at least two problems:
>>
>> - The Tramp version doesn't guarantee any longer uniqueness. Tramp
>> 2.6.3.29.4 would differ today and tomorrow. That was the reason to use
>> such an ambiguous version like 2.6.3-pre.
>>
>> - We might run into problems on ELPA. A user sees a builtin version of
>> Tramp 2.6.3.29.4, but in order to fix something for her there is also
>> Tramp 2.6.2.9 (let's say). I fear we'll have a hard time to explain,
>> that 2.6.2.9 is newer than 2.6.3.29.4.
>
> Then perhaps make-tarball.txt needs to say that the version of Tramp
> should be changed from X.Y.Z-pre to X.Y.Z as part of preparing the
> release? Or even do this automatically in admin/admin.el, as part of
> set-version?
No. Release X.Y.Z would attribute the full release of Tramp, not only
the part which is integrated into Emacs.
>> Perhaps it must not be coordinated with "me" only. A single
>> announcement, that there will be an emergency release within two days
>> would have helped. Usually, I scan Emacs related messages every single day.
>>
>> If I am unavailable that time, so be it. Not worse than now.
>
> Preparation of a release tarball is a precarious job: since we don't
> lock the Git repository while the release is being worked on, it must
> be done very quickly; any commits someone does during the time it
> takes to do all the steps necessary for producing the tarball is a
> setback that requires to go back several steps and start anew. So any
> additional dependency is a disadvantage I'd like to avoid.
You could start the prepare the release tarball after the grace period.
>> (FWIW, I don't understand yet why 29.3 was such an emergency that it was
>> released w/o any warning in advance.)
>
> Because it makes no sense to announce in advance that Emacs has
> security vulnerabilities. It's akin to waving the proverbial red flag
> at a bull.
I haven't proposed that such an announcement shall happen. I have only
proposed to send an alert like "Heads up! The next Emacs release will
happen on Sunday!".
Btw, I've got already the first rant that "Tramp 2.6.3-pre" is useless
for determining, whether a given patch is contained in Emacs 29.3. Right
they are!
<https://github.com/magit/magit/issues/3624#issuecomment-2022167445>
Best regards, Michael.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-03-27 8:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-03-24 14:14 Emacs 29.3 released Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-24 17:52 ` Corwin Brust
2024-03-24 18:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-24 19:36 ` Corwin Brust
2024-03-24 19:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-24 19:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-27 5:54 ` Corwin Brust
2024-03-24 18:48 ` Michael Albinus
2024-03-24 19:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-24 20:10 ` Michael Albinus
2024-03-24 20:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-26 8:48 ` Michael Albinus
2024-03-26 12:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-26 14:28 ` Michael Albinus
2024-03-26 14:38 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-03-26 17:50 ` Michael Albinus
2024-03-26 18:01 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-03-26 18:48 ` Michael Albinus
2024-03-26 19:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-27 8:27 ` Michael Albinus [this message]
2024-03-27 12:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-27 14:07 ` Michael Albinus
2024-03-27 16:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-27 17:35 ` Michael Albinus
2024-04-03 12:03 ` Michael Albinus
2024-04-03 12:36 ` Robert Pluim
2024-04-03 15:01 ` Michael Albinus
2024-04-03 12:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-03 14:56 ` Michael Albinus
2024-04-04 12:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-04 12:40 ` Michael Albinus
2024-04-04 17:46 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-03-27 15:15 ` Corwin Brust
2024-03-26 15:32 ` Ulrich Mueller
2024-03-26 18:42 ` Michael Albinus
2024-04-06 15:45 ` Lynn Winebarger
2024-04-06 16:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
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