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From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs 29.3 released
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2024 15:28:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <875xx9f4ol.fsf@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <865xx9jh3y.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 26 Mar 2024 14:46:25 +0200")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

Hi Eli,

>> Tramp 2.6 collects bug fixes. During pretest of Emacs 29.2, only serious
>> bugs, which are a regression, were merged to the emacs-29 branch. After
>> the Emacs 29.2 release, the current state of the tramp-2-6-stable branch
>> (from the Tramp git repo) was merged to the emacs-29 branch, in order to
>> have the other bug fixes there as well.
>>
>> This is the usual procedure Tramp applies for years.
>
> I see.  FWIW, I wasn't aware of this.  My mental model of the release
> branch is that it is ready for an immediate release at all times.
>
> Would it be possible to modify the Tramp revision on the release
> branch so that it would not have the "-pre" suffix, and otherwise
> leave intact the procedure by which you collect and merge fixes to the
> release branch?  That would mean that if such an emergency release
> does happen, you then advance the Tramp version to the next one (say,
> from 2.6.3 to 2.6.4), and keep updating the release branch with any
> further fixes.  If that is possible for you, I think it will be the
> easiest solution for the future, if we ever need to make such
> emergency releases again (something that I think is quite probable,
> given that it happened both for Emacs 28 and Emacs 29).

It would be possible. I could change the Tramp version in the release
branch to the next anticipated release number. So I could change it now
to "2.6.3.29.4". However, I see at least two problems:

- The Tramp version doesn't guarantee any longer uniqueness. Tramp
  2.6.3.29.4 would differ today and tomorrow. That was the reason to use
  such an ambiguous version like 2.6.3-pre.

- We might run into problems on ELPA. A user sees a builtin version of
  Tramp 2.6.3.29.4, but in order to fix something for her there is also
  Tramp 2.6.2.9 (let's say). I fear we'll have a hard time to explain,
  that 2.6.2.9 is newer than 2.6.3.29.4.

> Alternatively, we could record in make-tarball.txt the fact that such
> releases must be coordinated with you.  From where I stand, this is
> less desirable (as it adds a non-trivial prerequisite for such
> releases, which could mean a delay if you are unavailable for some
> reason), but still possible.

Perhaps it must not be coordinated with "me" only. A single
announcement, that there will be an emergency release within two days
would have helped. Usually, I scan Emacs related messages every single day.

If I am unavailable that time, so be it. Not worse than now.

(FWIW, I don't understand yet why 29.3 was such an emergency that it was
released w/o any warning in advance.)

> Thanks.

Best regards, Michael.



  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-26 14:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-24 14:14 Emacs 29.3 released Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-24 17:52 ` Corwin Brust
2024-03-24 18:46   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-24 19:36     ` Corwin Brust
2024-03-24 19:46       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-24 19:58         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-27  5:54         ` Corwin Brust
2024-03-24 18:48 ` Michael Albinus
2024-03-24 19:29   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-24 20:10     ` Michael Albinus
2024-03-24 20:20       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-26  8:48         ` Michael Albinus
2024-03-26 12:46           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-26 14:28             ` Michael Albinus [this message]
2024-03-26 14:38               ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-03-26 17:50                 ` Michael Albinus
2024-03-26 18:01                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-03-26 18:48                     ` Michael Albinus
2024-03-26 19:35               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-27  8:27                 ` Michael Albinus
2024-03-27 12:42                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-27 14:07                     ` Michael Albinus
2024-03-27 16:42                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-27 17:35                         ` Michael Albinus
2024-04-03 12:03                           ` Michael Albinus
2024-04-03 12:36                             ` Robert Pluim
2024-04-03 15:01                               ` Michael Albinus
2024-04-03 12:51                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-03 14:56                               ` Michael Albinus
2024-04-04 12:25                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-04 12:40                                   ` Michael Albinus
2024-04-04 17:46                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-03-27 15:15                     ` Corwin Brust
2024-03-26 15:32   ` Ulrich Mueller
2024-03-26 18:42     ` Michael Albinus
2024-04-06 15:45 ` Lynn Winebarger
2024-04-06 16:09   ` Eli Zaretskii

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