From: Karl Fogel <kfogel@red-bean.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Should `revert-buffer' preserve text-scaling by default?
Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2019 02:15:33 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87d0d8xxzu.fsf@red-bean.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83imn1omkf.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 30 Nov 2019 09:22:40 +0200")
On 30 Nov 2019, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> In general, are you in favor of having a default list of preserved
>> modes for `revert-buffer', with the above modes as the initial
>> candidates for membership in that list?
>
>I'm okay with that, as an option, but let's hear what others think.
>The more modes we want to preserve, the more backward incompatibility
>this change will bring, so we may wish to tread with care.
Agreed (see below).
>> However, the more I think about it, the more I wonder if maybe just
>> defaulting `preserve-modes' to true might be the best solution. Does
>> it really make sense to *not* preserve modes by default when
>> reverting a buffer?
>
>Well, the fact that we did that for eons is one huge evidence that it
>does make sense.
>
>But I won't object to exposing that argument via a defcustom or a
>special value of prefix arg.
>
>> So how about we just flip that parameter's sense and change its name
>to `discard-modes' (or `revert-modes', or whatever)?
>
>This must be an opt-in feature, for backward compatibility reasons.
I have to agree, despite my earlier eagerness. Just as whoever implemented text-scaling using a minor mode probably had no thought about the interaction with `revert-buffer' given the latter's `preserve-modes' parameter, we cannot know the consequences of reversing that parameter's sense now.
Given that it would be opt-in, however, the value of implementing becomes somewhat low, since as an opt-in it would not by default solve the original bug, which is that `revert-buffer' behaves unexpectedly w.r.t. text-scaling.
So going back to the previous proposal seems like the best approach, because it allows us to change just the buggy behavior(s) and nothing else. To reiterate: that proposal is to have a new list variable `revert-buffer-preserved-modes', whose default value includes these modes:
`text-scale-mode'
`display-line-numbers-mode'
`display-fill-column-indicator-mode'
`hl-line-mode' (maybe?)
Over time we could adjust the default contents of this list, of course.
I would also like to hear what others here think, both about the overall idea and about what modes should be in that list.
Best regards,
-Karl
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-12-01 8:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-11-29 20:24 Should `revert-buffer' preserve text-scaling by default? Karl Fogel
2019-11-29 20:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-29 21:02 ` Karl Fogel
2019-11-30 7:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-29 21:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-29 21:20 ` Karl Fogel
2019-11-30 7:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-01 8:15 ` Karl Fogel [this message]
2019-12-01 9:47 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-12-01 10:24 ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-12-01 17:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-01 10:27 ` Michael Albinus
2019-12-01 17:35 ` Karl Fogel
2019-12-01 18:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-02 2:01 ` Karl Fogel
2019-12-02 16:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-02 17:19 ` Karl Fogel
2019-12-02 17:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-02 22:29 ` Karl Fogel
2019-12-02 22:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-03 0:36 ` Karl Fogel
2019-12-03 16:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-03 16:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-03 16:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-03 17:35 ` Karl Fogel
2019-12-01 21:49 ` Juri Linkov
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