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From: Karl Fogel <kfogel@red-bean.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Should `revert-buffer' preserve text-scaling by default?
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2019 15:20:42 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8736e6tm51.fsf@red-bean.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvr21ql7ce.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Fri, 29 Nov 2019 16:09:31 -0500")

On 29 Nov 2019, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>> There are other buffer-local minor modes that are of similar nature:
>> display-line-numbers-mode, display-fill-column-indicator-mode, and
>> maybe some others (e.g., what about hl-line-mode?).  So if we are
>> going to preserve text-scale-mode across reverting, I think we should
>> have a list of modes to preserve, not just exempt this one mode.
>
>There's already the `preserve-modes` argument to `revert-buffer`
>for that.  For some reason we don't expose it to the end-user :-(

My original post explains why I don't think that parameter is a good mechanism for these kinds of display-related behaviors.

However, the more I think about it, the more I wonder if maybe just defaulting `preserve-modes' to true might be the best solution.  Does it really make sense to *not* preserve modes by default when reverting a buffer?  I think most people just expect `revert-buffer' to revert the contents -- they're trying to discard their current changes and get back in sync with whatever's in the underlying file.  That doesn't necessarily mean they want to change Emacs's behavior in terms of how the buffer is displayed or how it reacts to manipulation.  Reversion is about content, not about interaction.

So how about we just flip that parameter's sense and change its name to `discard-modes' (or `revert-modes', or whatever)?

That would solve the original problem that motivated me, and it might also be a better default behavior for users anyway.

(I'm happy to make the change and update all callers, if there is agreement.)

Best regards,
-Karl



  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-29 21:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-29 20:24 Should `revert-buffer' preserve text-scaling by default? Karl Fogel
2019-11-29 20:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-29 21:02   ` Karl Fogel
2019-11-30  7:24     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-29 21:09   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-29 21:20     ` Karl Fogel [this message]
2019-11-30  7:22       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-01  8:15         ` Karl Fogel
2019-12-01  9:47           ` Stefan Kangas
2019-12-01 10:24             ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-12-01 17:38               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-01 10:27             ` Michael Albinus
2019-12-01 17:35               ` Karl Fogel
2019-12-01 18:25           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-02  2:01             ` Karl Fogel
2019-12-02 16:15               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-02 17:19                 ` Karl Fogel
2019-12-02 17:42                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-02 22:29                     ` Karl Fogel
2019-12-02 22:49                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-03  0:36                         ` Karl Fogel
2019-12-03 16:11                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-03 16:10                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-03 16:09                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-03 17:35                         ` Karl Fogel
2019-12-01 21:49 ` Juri Linkov

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