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From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: Stefan <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
Cc: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>,
	"Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] trunk r116461: Connect electric-indent-mode up with CC Mode. Bug #15478.
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 03:49:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8761n39hdz.fsf@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvtxane9tf.fsf-monnier+emacsdiffs@gnu.org> (Stefan's message of "Mon, 24 Mar 2014 14:32:05 -0400")

Stefan <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA> writes:

> You might get used to "RET reindents" and stop hitting TAB that often
> ;-)

Maybe. :) But if I'm going to type anything else at all on the given
line before typing RET, the hand is itching to reindent before that, to
make text look ordered.

> For me one of the reasons why it's not gratuitous is because of things like:
>
>        begin
>          blabla
>          blibli
>        end
>
> Go to just before "blibli" and type "end RET": notice that hitting TAB
> just before RET won't help you, because you need to reindent the line
> after the newline is inserted.

I can see how this could be handy, but it's not an example I see
frequently. In part because I use `ruby-end', which inserts `end' after
one types a block beginner and SPC or RET. So one's inclined to produce
all `end' keywords that way, to keep them paired.

In any case, this seems to depend on the language having
keyword-delimited blocks and no semicolons.  This does not characterize
the majority of the languages Emacs supports, I think.

>> For all others, just swapping C-j and RET bindings would've worked just
>> as well, and I think it would result in simpler code.
>
> Again "just swapping" sounds simple, but I'm not sure what patch you
> have in mind.

I've commented on Alan's proposed plan of action.

> I think it's important for the user to be able to easily
> say something like (electric-indent-mode -1) (and/or its buffer-local
> equivalent) to recover the Emacs-23 behavior.

The importance of this is not clear to me, but I guess it wouldn't hurt
to have this, either way.



  reply	other threads:[~2014-03-25  1:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <E1WFSpO-0001e7-Gm@vcs.savannah.gnu.org>
2014-02-18  0:11 ` [Emacs-diffs] trunk r116461: Connect electric-indent-mode up with CC Mode. Bug #15478 Stefan Monnier
2014-02-22 18:27   ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-02-25  3:24     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-02-28 19:50       ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-01 15:57         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-03-02 11:51           ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-04  3:48             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-03-08 22:58               ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-09  1:57                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-03-09 12:37                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-10  3:37                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-03-10  6:59                       ` Glenn Morris
2014-03-10 12:24                       ` João Távora
2014-03-10 18:30                         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-03-16 22:35                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-17 15:48                         ` Stefan
2014-03-19 22:42                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-20  1:46                             ` Stefan
2014-03-20  8:35                               ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-03-21  8:24                                 ` João Távora
2014-03-22 13:13                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-22 16:14                                 ` Stefan
2014-03-22 20:19                                   ` David Caldwell
2014-03-22 22:05                                     ` David Kastrup
2014-03-22 22:32                                       ` David Caldwell
2014-03-24  1:13                                     ` Stefan
2014-03-22 22:34                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-24  1:37                                     ` Stefan
2014-03-24 22:40                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-25  1:37                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-03-26 20:53                                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-27  8:02                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-03-30 14:57                                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-31 17:11                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-04-03 21:53                                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-25  1:54                                         ` Stefan
2014-03-26 21:21                                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-27 14:49                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-03-30 11:37                                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-30 16:46                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-03-22 23:10                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-24  1:39                                     ` Stefan
2014-03-24  6:59                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-03-24  9:08                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-03-24 17:19                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-24 17:29                                             ` David Kastrup
2014-03-24 17:39                                               ` David Kastrup
2014-03-24 17:38                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-03-24 17:52                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-25  1:53                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-03-25  3:49                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-24 18:32                                           ` Stefan
2014-03-25  1:49                                             ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2014-03-25  7:44                                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-03-25  8:08                                               ` Steinar Bang
2014-03-25 16:49                                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-03-25 17:08                                                   ` Steinar Bang
2014-03-25 17:31                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-03-25 19:28                                                       ` Steinar Bang
2014-03-25 19:49                                                         ` David Kastrup
2014-03-25 19:54                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-03-25 13:26                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-03-27  7:51                                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-03-24 21:12                                         ` Alan Mackenzie

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